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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Hi,
----------------------------------------so this is a thread about using BOINC on crunching WCG on Windows powered: - tablets - phones So far we had a HUGE amount of data crunched by FightAIDS@home with Android/ARM powered devices... Next in line are the Windows powered devices on tablets which use x86/x64 CPU architecture...so do you have a tablet with Win8 (or 8,1) on tablet with x86/x64 proc? Do you use BOINC on it while it's hooked on power source? What about Phones? Microsoft bought NOKIA...which CPU's do they use? Have anyone been trying to put BOINC on NOKIA/Win powered phones? Any success with that? All recommendations, ideas & suggestions are welcomed here... |
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Former Member
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'Huge' as is pathetic. As of now the android science app is unstable, did you miss that message? Let me reprod the chart that can be found in start here, showing there is as much contribution now with 42k registered devices as there was at the beginning with 13k registered devices, follow the dotted brown streak, meaning departure is practically as fast as joining, literally trial, and error.
But, there is a berkeley agent thread for windows phones, as wcg will not go with anything different. Discussed here https://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=8361 , over 1 year old, and no one checking in since. Lest developers are motivated, nothing will happen. sorry  |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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nice, but that part is for Android topic: https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/listthreads?forum=580
----------------------------------------actually I don't use Android for security reasons & bad OS...security reasons 'cause of the viruses on Android's...bad OS 'cause of the continual reset of the OS (on iOS od BBOS6 don't have that issues!)... as for my knowledge, Win8 tablets are essentially a computer in tablets...so they should work similar to laptop settings...but, what about HEAT? as for the Win8CE on phones...thanks for the link... has anyone tried to make it work on NOKIA/Microsoft phone? |
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enels
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I have an ASUS Transformer Book t100ta running Windows 8.1 and it is plugged in and running four WCG tasks 24/7. It uses 4 watts measured at the wall and one corner is slightly warm. It uses an Intel Atom Z3740 and you may want to look at other devices using Z3000 series processors like the Z3745, Z3770, Z3775 and Z3795.
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I have an ASUS Transformer Book t100ta running Windows 8.1 and it is plugged in and running four WCG tasks 24/7. It uses 4 watts measured at the wall and one corner is slightly warm. It uses an Intel Atom Z3740 and you may want to look at other devices using Z3000 series processors like the Z3745, Z3770, Z3775 and Z3795. what r the average points u get from that tablet per week or day?  |
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enels
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I've had it about 1 month and the Z3740's BOINC RAC is 670 ppd or 4690 WCG points per day. This is with a mixture of FAAH and MCM work units.
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noderaser
Senior Cruncher United States Joined: Jun 6, 2006 Post Count: 297 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I have an ASUS Transformer Book t100ta running Windows 8.1 and it is plugged in and running four WCG tasks 24/7. It uses 4 watts measured at the wall and one corner is slightly warm. I have the same device, though I don't leave it on 24/7 to keep it charged when I need it; seems that whenever it's on and plugged in, I am still draining battery. However, when I suspend BOINC the charge meter makes positive progress. I brought it up over at the official BOINC forum, it would be nice to have a "Minimum battery level" setting like the Android version. No problems with heat, though; looking at HWmonitor, everything stays under 50 C when running at full bore. To get back to the OP, if your tablet has an x86-based processor and not an ARM, then you can run the regular BOINC version for Windows. You're not the first to ask about support for Windows Phone, it's not likely to happen through official channels until they get a much larger market share; right now, it will be a long time before anyone comes close to eclipsing iOS and Android. It's not unfeasible, however, if you get together a group of Windows Phone enthusiasts who have the knowledge to get a version of BOINC coded for it--that's how BOINC came to Android before the official Berkeley release, with AndroBOINC and NativeBOINC. |
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Former Member
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part quote
I have the same device, though I don't leave it on 24/7 to keep it charged when I need it; seems that whenever it's on and plugged in, I am still draining battery. However, when I suspend BOINC the charge meter makes positive progress. I brought it up over at the official BOINC forum, it would be nice to have a "Minimum battery level" setting like the Android version. No problems with heat, though; looking at HWmonitor, everything stays under 50 C when running at full bore. Was unaware berkeley had removed the 'min. battery level' from the android agent's 'advanced preferences and controls...' Are they on drugs, since that option had been there for quite some releases through 7.3.17. The charger not keeping up is an issue, continuously alternating between battery low pause and resume, the only present way on multithreaded devices is to reduce the number of allowed cpu cores. Mine is set to 2 of 4 when on the travel charger. The heavier with 2 usb ports, not pocket friendly, manages 4 threads, but the touch display then gets unfriendly hot on one side, hence the battery temp set to 36C, which then initiates pauses too. After all this, maybe your were referring to a secondary battery level, a 'resume' level. This would advocate a fast charging, to full for instance, then uninterrupted computing run till the lower battery level is reached again. Personally, have little doubt the perpetual stop/run is causing bad results and is bad for the battery life. When you have one with a replaceable, fine, but my tablet has not. Ps, there's charge cables and charge cables. The longer the poorer the recharging. So much for off topic. |
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noderaser
Senior Cruncher United States Joined: Jun 6, 2006 Post Count: 297 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Was unaware berkeley had removed the 'min. battery level' from the android agent's 'advanced preferences and controls...' Are they on drugs, since that option had been there for quite some releases through 7.3.17. They didn't, the device I am referring to runs Windows 8.1 on an x86 processor. It uses the standard desktop version of BOINC.The charger not keeping up is an issue, continuously alternating between battery low pause and resume, the only present way on multithreaded devices is to reduce the number of allowed cpu cores. Mine is set to 2 of 4 when on the travel charger. I have reduced the core usage to 2 of 4, and it improves the battery drain but does not take care of it entirely. I am using the stock 10 W charger and 2m cable, though the device never seems to draw more than 4 or 5 W, even with the screen on and BOINC running.This device may not be the best suited for BOINC unless I can solve the charge issue... As for its sleep options, it seems the entire device will go to sleep whenever the screen turns off. I guess that makes sense because it's primary function is as a tablet. Since I currently have sleep set at about 10 minutes when plugged in, there is not a lot of computing that gets done. Another thing I am somewhat concerned about is battery fatigue, the battery in my Android phone seems to be degrading at a much faster rate since I have started using BOINC on it. |
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KLiK
Master Cruncher Croatia Joined: Nov 13, 2006 Post Count: 3108 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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on Win8 tablets: aren't they supposed to run as normal Win8? So just go to Power preference & put Go to sleep on NEVER...it will always be on, ready to start...will drain battery in 1-2 days...but will also crunch when on power supply...
----------------------------------------on Android: what % of battery do u have for starting the BOINC? it's usually 95% charged...so it doesn't mess up the battery... ;) did u made some measurements of battery life? also, did u put BOINC to crunch only when on power supply? ;) |
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