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twilyth
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I think you're absolutely right and pointed that out in my earlier post. I just wasn't sure it worked that way but now you seem to confirm my suspicions. However given the rates I was seeing for the 24 thread 24 gig machine I had listed at the time which I don't think was ever more than 2-3 cents per hour and only for periods of less than a day IIRC, if you can find a machine like that and bid 4-5 cents, you a) probably wouldn't have any competition and b) would be paying half the price of the best prices we've seen here or less.

And even if you get out bid, it would most likely be only temporarily, so the real issue would be how difficult it would be set the instance up again. I seem to recall something on their web site about automating the process but I might be wrong about that. And as I said, at 4-5 cents, I don't think you would have any competition.

I did this a few months ago so I don't think things have changed much in the meantime.

But in terms of paying someone to crunch for you, you're probably better off talking to some of the teams here like TPU and XS that I've referenced before. Even if you can't run rigs you would want to build yourself, there are plenty of people on those teams who would be more than happy to build and run them for you at cost for a percentage of time on the machine. Think of it as a time share.

I've been on both teams for a period of years in each case and I can vouch for both. Not only would you meet a great group of people and learn more than you can probably imagine, but you would achieve your goals for a fraction of what you're currently thinking of spending.

I do understand the attraction of not having any messy human interaction, and if that is part of what you like about going this route, that's cool. I'm not trying to spam your thread. I really am trying to be helpful and point out alternatives that I think might appeal to at least a few people who were considering this alternative.
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So, after almost 2 weeks of crunching, the results of the 8 core cloud machine aren't too bad, however, it does show that the 8 core device is not the way to go. While the results are good for an eight core machine, as far as costs are go, it's not the best...
Date	Days	CPU Days		Points		Results Returned	Points per Result
07/15/2014 0:000:04:12:11
07/16/2014 7.6 0:007:15:06:33 29,867 87 343.30
07/17/2014 8.3 0:008:08:38:32 32,809 94 349.03
07/18/2014 8 0:008:01:28:28 33,754 100 337.54
07/19/2014 6.5 0:006:11:02:25 24,803 42 590.55
07/20/2014 8.6 0:008:16:18:18 35,515 55 645.73
07/21/2014 9 0:009:02:37:56 34,278 54 634.78
07/22/2014 8 0:008:02:18:08 29,224 45 649.42
07/23/2014 7.3 0:007:14:30:27 27,906 40 697.65
07/24/2014 6.6 0:006:19:51:02 25,512 35 728.91
07/25/2014 8 0:008:04:29:24 30,008 41 731.90
07/26/2014 6.5 0:006:07:40:16 20,684 39 530.36


Here's a summary og the results. points and run time...
Totals	Days	AVDays	Points	Results	PPR	AvPPD
Cloud1 84.40 7.67 324,360 632 567.20 29,487

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In my last post above, I posted the results for the 8 core/2Ghz machine, here is the latest summary:
Totals	Days	AVDays	Points	Results	PPR	AvPPD
Cloud1 141.90 7.88 546,936 1,090 537.86 30,385
Output appears to be stable, but for the cost I want more. This instance will not be renewed, just allowed to expire at the end of it's month...

Still it was a good test and added to the results etc for the projects.
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Following on from the test device above, I purchased some time on a further 2 machines as follows:
    Xeon L5639 2
    Xeon X5650 2.67Ghz
both are dual 6c/12th.

Its worth mentioning at this point I currently run a few X5650's with good results.

Here is a summary of the output of both, Ubuntu = L5639, Ubuntu2 = X5650
Totals	Days	AVDays	Points	Results	PPR	AvPPD
Ubuntu 290.50 24.21 729,074 1,286 588.63 60,756
Ubuntu2 117.00 23.40 400,607 845 520.69 80,121
Ubuntu has been running for 12 days, while Ubuntu2 has been running for only 5 days, the results are looking very promising!

So much so, I've already invested in another one! I'll post an update in a couple of weeks to show how they are doing...

Hope you guys find this useful, if you have any questions please post them here...
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what cloud service are you using again?
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what cloud service are you using again?
THe following for the main results posted:
Specs - dual Xeon 5504/4c total 8c, 16Gb, 2tb HDD


Provider - Kimsufi
Setup - 120 Seconds! - Yes really! and it was!
Cost - 9.99 Euro setup, 24.99 Euro monthly
Support via forum, response times vary from almost instant from other users/customers to a little longer for staff

The others are with WSI - WholeSaleInternet
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Hi all,
I just set up a sample account from windows azure.
it's free for 30 days. you can crack up 20 cores. no utility bill & no broadband bill :))
have a check.. it's worth 600 CPU/days...
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Mamajuanauk - A couple questions about your experience with WSI. Once they have provisioned your instance, do they send you an IP address you can SSH to? I saw they had some admin control panel options you could add (for a fee). I figured those weren't necessary to get crunching, but wanted to be sure. Also, when you said you were letting an instance expire, did you run into any trouble with them trying to auto-renew and bill you again?

Thanks!
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Safak wrote:
Hi all,
I just set up a sample account from windows azure.
it's free for 30 days. you can crack up 20 cores. no utility bill & no broadband bill :))
have a check.. it's worth 600 CPU/days...


What plan have you chosen?

TIA smile
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Hi Safak,
I would be very interested to know how your FREE ( biggrin ) windows azure experiment works out. How many points per hour? How long to crunch a work unit?

I tried the Amazon EC2 1 year free trial (micro instance) for crunching, but it was no good at all. It took days and days to finish a work unit.

Hope you have better success with Azure, do let us know! smile




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