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Former Member
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Looking at the homepage we claim to have 84,821 members. My question is: how many of this number are still active members? Looking through the statistics many members have not returned a result since November last year! Is it not possible to filter out members and teams who are not active say, for the past 3 months, to give a clearer picture of what the actual membership is?
The amount of activity on the members forum only reflects a small proportion of the 84k membership, with only a few hundred teams and members participating. So what is the true number of people that are actually active? You admins must have some idea, I hope, or am I whistling in the wind  |
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Former Member
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or am I whistling in the wind Whistle while you crunch  |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
On a related note, I've noticed there are a lot of teams with zero members. Maybe somehow these could be filtered out too, or maybe they should be removed if they have been member-less for some period of time.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
There has been some discussion this Spring of 'filtering out' devices and/or members that have not returned results in a while. But it is a low-priority issue while we are trying to develop agents for different platforms, board new programs and improve our server-side software. The Global Statistics show the real situation with results returned and computer run time reported by systems returning results.
My opinion is that eventually we will have to do something along these lines to avoid accusations of deception, but as long as we are busy programming more useful things, it is hard to justify side-tracking a programmer to spend time on a secondary issue. |
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Former Member
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mycroft
Perhaps someone with a calculator with more digits than mine can work out the true membership figure from the Global stats! Using my own country as an example it is claimed that there are 2357 members. Looking through a sample of the results returned by, about a third have not actually returned a result for some time. There are even 3 that joined last year who have never returned a result! A quick look through the rest shows that even members in the 100,000 plus group are also droping out. So lets say about 40% are not actually active. Applying that figure to the total membership gives a figure of of 51,00 a long way short of the 85,000. I suspect that it's actually worse than this. Someone wan't to amend the front page?  |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Look at http://vspx27.stanford.edu/DCcomparison.html
It says that we have the equivalent of 23332 active CPUs as of Wed Aug 24 00:00:05 PDT 2005. I think that we had less than 60,000 members early this year when we were posting numbers like this. Just convert CPU Run Time in the Global Statistics into hours and divide by 24. The member and number of devices figures will always grow but over time will have less and less relationship to Results Returned and CPU Run Time, which tell the true story. Bringing them back into synchrony will take some programming. |
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Former Member
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Thanks mycroft,
So, we have 23,332 machines crunching. There are a lot of members with massive amounts of machines, in the hundreds, so the actual membership number is less than 23k. Someone wan't to amend the front page? No wonder recruiting anybody to a team is so difficult.   mycroft I don't suppose you want....I thought not. |
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Former Member
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The only issue I see with "filtering out" inactives is that........should they return, they may feel like they are not wanted and not bother.
There are lots of possible reasons why a person may be inactive.......many cases it may not be a matter of choice. I raised the same question once at grid as I felt the stats there were seriously flawed.......and all the "non-stats" are just clogging up the databases even more. Not sure there is an easy way of dealing with the matter. But, would it not be easy to have two stats? Total members: Members currently active Though by no means definitive , it would give a more accurate representation of project status. |
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Former Member
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Brilliant! Give the man a coconut
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retsof
Former Community Advisor USA Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Post Count: 6824 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Brilliant! Give the man a coconut If each member is only picking coconuts 1 hour per day, that's 24 coco-members.The Stanford DC compare link uses arbitrary "24 hour members", dividing the run time by days, to get their number. It assumes 24/7 usage, but all members do not crunch all day. There are AT LEAST this many active members, but probably more, and less than the total members due to inactivity of some.
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