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Re: MCM Progress Reports - June 21 Update

Thanks Sgt.Joe cool
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Re: MCM Progress Reports - June 21 Update

Hello, I wonder why estimated end date is still in October like it was a year ago.
I would expect end date to be closer since computers' power increases, slowly but increases, and new volunteers also might join this project so total computing power should increase and estimated end date should be closer but it does not.
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Re: MCM Progress Reports - June 21 Update

There seems to be a ~10-15% increase in MCM production since the end of FAAH. This might bring the end even closer unless a new project is started.
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Lest the ever mum WCG leadership brings a sub of equal proportion by then, the crunch will become very thin. Technically, if all 'known' work for the active sciences could be fed to the DC hungry at the same total years as now ~400-425 Yrs / Day, we'd be done by March or so. And then, The Void cool.
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Re: MCM Progress Reports - June 21 Update

Hello, I wonder why estimated end date is still in October like it was a year ago.
I would expect end date to be closer since computers' power increases, slowly but increases, and new volunteers also might join this project so total computing power should increase and estimated end date should be closer but it does not.



if you notice it says 80% on the front page and 84% here, my guess is they added >5% more work then they expected as the reports here are based off initial work unit estimates.
as to your question, my guess is WCG tries to have several projects to work on, enough for choice but not so much that projects never complete. They after all, dictate resources and distribute work units ;)
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Re: MCM Progress Reports - June 21 Update

The % progress on the Research summary page is kind of reverse Polish [you know what that is, if e.g having used certain HP calculators]. An extrapolation of known work and estimated pace is made [inputs as summer slowing, new projects could affect this], and an end date plugged. Then the progress is expressed as a number of days passed since start of total project days duration estimate. So what you see are different approaches applied, one on estimated work volume remaining and the other back from a future date. As the scientist wrote, given the unknown on where the current new batches will go [based off work previously returned], no adjustment to the 17,500 batches initially indicated... could be more, could be less.

As to the post responded to, don't know where this comparison comes from... it's on the official page indicated as November 2015 conclusion since a week or more.
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Re: MCM Progress Reports - June 21 Update

The % progress on the Research summary page is kind of reverse Polish...

Not sure that I know what reverse Polish is (since I don't even know Polish biggrin ), but I do know what Reverse Polish Notation is.

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LoL, look right side where it is [for connoisseurs], generally referred to as... ("Reverse Polish") ;>)
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Re: MCM Progress Reports - June 21 Update

I am basing my dates on a simple extrapolation of the rate of results in the 30 days with a static number of WU as provided by the scientists. If the duration of the WU changes, or the number of the WU's changes, or the number of hours the crunchers devote to this project change, there will be a corresponding change in the estimated (projected) end date. For instance, yesterday showed the number of WU returned was 618,951. This is a result of both shorter duration units and more hours devoted to the project. If this rate should continue, it will have a profound effect on the estimated end date. Roughly speaking, a rate of 500,000 completed WU per day will result in a stable projected end date.

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Hello, I wonder why estimated end date is still in October like it was a year ago.
I would expect end date to be closer since computers' power increases, slowly but increases, and new volunteers also might join this project so total computing power should increase and estimated end date should be closer but it does not.


But the WU's processing time is a little volatile at times. That October time frame has been reduced and then extended back to October over the course of time. You have also had people who have dropped out of this project (like myself), so that will push the time out as well. In the next month it will become more clear as to how the loss of FAAH will impact this and other projects.

At the end of the day, the project is done when it is done. The scientists have technically added to this project since they are using past results to generate new WU sets. They haven't even gotten to the other three cancer targets...yet. So, October may have come and gone and this project could still be running.
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