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Thargor
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Re: Morning Update II
Has anyone tried/considered trying an Amazon AWS EC2 instance for running WCG-crunching? If tried, what sort of performance was obtained, compared to the cost of running it?
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Re: Morning Update II
Has anyone tried/considered trying an Amazon AWS EC2 instance for running WCG-crunching? If tried, what sort of performance was obtained, compared to the cost of running it?

I looked into it, however, did not get past the setting up account part! The problem is to do with Amazon not being able to use the security code on the UK cards, so I could not enter a card that would be accepted by the bank to charge the costs to...

Well, that's the issue I had anyway...

I would have done some testing to see how performance and costs compared to output and costs of running a server farm.

My reasoning was that it's easier to find £xx per month than £xxxx to build a new machine and then the cost of the electricity...

When I have time, I may look into it again with other providers.
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Re: Morning Update II
Am also looking at the comparison between AWS EC2 and running a dedicated server from the likes of kimsufi.com or wholesaleinternet.net (both recommended to me by people here in work).
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In Other News
New Stats Project

This thread pointed out that the WCG provided stats in My Contribution specifically Avg. Run Time Per Calendar Day and Avg. Points Per Calendar Day have little relevance to members because they run from the date the account was created. Using Scribe (who's been here since the dawn of time) as an example Avg. Run Time Per Calendar Day returns 0:006:05:55:06 and Avg. Points Per Calendar Day 20,704 when he is currently averaging around 15 RTd per day and 60,000 Pts. pd.

Scribe helpfully linked to the exellent Free-DC

The problem I have with Free-DC (and other BOINC stat sites) is that they only report Recent Average Creditt (Points). Given the recent moans throughout the forum about Points allocation, particularly CEP2 and FAAH, I prefer to survey and report RunTime, Points and Results. The new stats project will therefore report Average RunTime/ Points/Results per day on a Year todate/Last 28 days/Last 7 days basis.

Sadly the antiquated forum software will not let me replicate the Free-DC graphics. sad
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Re: In Other News
New Stats Project

This thread pointed out that the WCG provided stats in My Contribution specifically Avg. Run Time Per Calendar Day and Avg. Points Per Calendar Day have little relevance to members because they run from the date the account was created. Using Scribe (who's been here since the dawn of time) as an example Avg. Run Time Per Calendar Day returns 0:006:05:55:06 and Avg. Points Per Calendar Day 20,704 when he is currently averaging around 15 RTd per day and 60,000 Pts. pd.

Scribe helpfully linked to the exellent Free-DC

The problem I have with Free-DC (and other BOINC stat sites) is that they only report Recent Average Creditt (Points). Given the recent moans throughout the forum about Points allocation, particularly CEP2 and FAAH, I prefer to survey and report RunTime, Points and Results. The new stats project will therefore report Average RunTime/ Points/Results per day on a Year todate/Last 28 days/Last 7 days basis.

Sadly the antiquated forum software will not let me replicate the Free-DC graphics. sad
Sounds really, really good, much more usefull than what is currently available...

When will we see it?
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When will we see it?

Imminently! I had to break for dinner. wink I now just have to write the explanatoary guide.
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When will we see it?

Imminently! I had to break for dinner. wink I now just have to write the explanatoary guide.
Super, Can't wait!

Will you be including me before I'm a member of the UK team?
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Re: In Other News
Some of my machines have 'Build logs' in the forums:

First Dual processor system

MegaCruncher - I have two of these...

The 'New Toy'

More to follow, I'll edit this post...
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Re: In Other News
Average Output per day

This is not intended to be viewed as a "big (team) picture", rather to be looked at line by line, data set by data set.
									
                 	Runtime			Points			Results		
                  	YTD	28d	 7d	YTD	28d	 7d	YTD	28d	 7d
GrumpyCat        	52.3	55.0	20.7	213.4	258.8	 79.2	343	672	163
crooks_uk        	31.6	30.8	30.1	137.5	146.0	132.7	236	296	263
Soong            	19.8	29.8	30.7	 99.4	145.5	142.4	139	258	214
Mike D Green     	19.5	20.9	21.7	 74.8	 82.3	 81.5	110	142	137
arkangath        	15.7	16.9	17.7	 67.8	 63.6	 64.0	107	129	124
Thargor          	15.5	 7.4	 7.1	 42.1	 21.9	 21.4	 50	 48	 48
Scribe           	14.2	14.9	14.8	 52.0	 63.3	 58.1	 92	117	 69
themoonscrescent 	13.8	 8.1	 9.6	 58.1	 36.8	 43.9	 68	 75	 93
fosking          	12.5	16.1	17.5	 33.1	 44.1	 40.7	 55	 93	 78
stroudwaterboy   	10.1	 8.8	 7.0	 38.7	 34.4	 29.0	 51	 76	 66
gordoncarruthers 	10.1	12.6	13.5	 16.4	 27.1	 28.0	 31	 56	 49
Ian_UK           	 9.7	10.1	10.6	 26.1	 24.7	 23.3	 43	 50	 47
Maugan           	 7.3	 2.5	 5.8	 41.8	 14.9	 33.3	 72	 29	 79
ChrisUK          	 7.3	 6.8	 8.0	 30.2	 33.0	 32.4	 53	 94	 73
jonnieb-uk       	 6.5	 5.4	 6.6	 20.8	 17.6	 21.3	 29	 31	 36
Labinopper       	 4.8	 4.8	 4.3	 20.9	 20.7	 17.1	 31	 44	 34
Barnsley_Tatts   	 4.4	 4.4	 4.9	 27.6	 32.7	 35.6	 46	101	108
Apis Tintinnambul	 4.0	 4.3	 4.6	  9.6	 10.5	  9.4	 13	 21	 21
Wicksman         	 3.8	 4.3	 4.1	 14.5	 17.5	 14.7	 24	 35	 29
douglasalt1      	 3.4	 3.5	 3.3	 14.5	 15.7	 13.7	 24	 32	 28
genhos           	 3.4	 3.0	 3.0	 10.4	 10.6	  9.0	 16	 23	 18
GB096523         	 3.4	 4.8	 4.9	 13.2	 19.4	 19.2	 19	 43	 43
azzaka           	 2.0	 3.1	 2.2	  6.8	 13.2	  9.4	 12	 23	 19
tuseef           	 1.9	 0.2	 0.8	  8.3	  0.9	  3.5	 11	  2	  6
Clockwork        	 1.7	 2.3	 2.0	 10.3	 11.6	  8.2	 17	 24	 16
gibbcorp         	 1.3	 1.1	 1.8	  5.7	  5.4	 11.4	 10	 11	 21
Dr Orange        	 0.8	 1.0	 0.9	  6.2	  6.8	  5.9	 10	 14	 14
Joe87            	 0.8	 0.4	 0.3	  1.4	  1.0	  0.7	  3	  2	  1
Darkmatter.NI    	 0.4	 2.5	 3.2	  3.4	 19.8	 23.7	  7	 40	 46
rose-in-bloom    	 0.3	 0.6	 0.7	  0.9	  2.2	  2.2	  2	  4	  4
jacquiob         	 0.1	 0.9	 1.3	  0.7	  5.1	  7.2	  2	 10	 13
amaryllis-angel  	 0.1	 0.8	 1.2	  0.5	  3.4	  4.3	  1	  6	  8
seamansgirl      	 0.0	 0.0	 0.0	  0.1	  0.2	  0.2	  0	  0	  0

Notes:

  • This is a first draft. E&OE!
  • No adjustment is made (at this time)in respect of Team members joining WCG and/or the UK Team since Jan 1 2014 e.g. Darkmatter.NI joined Jun 8
  • Width restriction means Points are shown '000
  • Ranking order is by Avg RT pd YTD
  • 28day and 7day data is colour coded by reference to YTD:

    • > YTD i.e. improving shown Blue
    • <= YTD i.e. worsening shown Red

  • Forum participating, active, members only
  • Instances of improving performance in one data subset and worsening in another e.g. arkangath and Ian_UK can probably be ascribed to changes in project mix.
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Re: In Other News
Will you be including me before I'm a member of the UK team?

Unfortunately I can't (at the moment) sad The source data is captured daily from the WCG provided UK Team stats.

If you follow this link (for each of your accounts) and work backwards to calculate your to date stats as of 31/12/13 I will be able to make the necessary adjustments.

I have started to capture your daily output stats from Jul 9, and note that the Mamajuana acciunt was last active 03 July 2014 confused
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