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Former Member
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NixChix, we are currently working on adopting v7 of the client, so we'll be able to benefit from the Notices tab at that point. Is this a problem with the WCG distribution of BOINC? I have the Berkeley version of 6.12.35 on a PowerPC Mac, and it's got the "Notices" tab under Advanced view... In simple view, the same content is shown by clicking the "Messages" button. This functionality existed prior to v6 and the "Notices" tab, though you had to wade through other server messages to view them. The Messages tab in simple view (SV) did not change name in 6.12, but it was showing Notices, not the log messages. There were no 'Notices' included in there prior to 6.12, no projects sending 'Did you know about...'. The Messages [+Tab] was removed and now only is accessible via the Advanced View > Advanced Menu > Event Log or shortcut Ctrl+Shift+E. Bit confusing it was still called 'Messages' in SV, but the GUI had a major overhaul in v7, to include it's now named proper. See updated wiki http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/The_BOINC_Manager and click on the appropriate links for detail explanation of the functionality. |
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Former Member
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With my advanced degree in science, I am a High School Graduate, I have never had any problem understanding or, if not, researching to get understanding of any project I am running.
I admit that I am probably more currious and prone to study than many folks. However. WCG has done a great job of keeping me informed. I do not post on the forums here very often. I do check in here fairly regularly and it is the first place I go to if there seems to be a problem. Have always found the information I need. As a side note, I like portability in my boinc client. I therefore install it in user land. That way when I switch to a different install I can just transfer it to that install. I am currently running 6.10.58 because nothing newer will run on any of my installs on this hardware. Most of my installs are from the Debian branch of Linux but I do have the occasional install from the Red Hat branch. This lets me know that all Linux installs have the same problem with the newer versions. I can run the newer versions if I use the Debian provided packages but they have trouble with video rendering with my Radeon HD 6450 card. That card was a recent addition due to my thinking that the old 2400 card was just obsolete. It has made no difference at all so I can't blame it anymore. I get no responce from the newer verwions. The manager will load. Sometimes I can log in and add WCG and sometimes not. Depends on the version of the install. My best results are with Debian testing and Sid with the 6.10.58 in user land. Just checked and this install, newly released Debian 7 has not been upgraded to Debian testing once again and is offering boinc 7.0. Have used that and had 7.10 when it came out for testing, It would not run at all past opening a non functioning manager which had to be shut down in terminal. I started running boinc testing back at the start of the 4.x series which is where I learned to install in user land. No trouble up to what ever it was that came after 6.10.58. Non have run on here since. This is not an antique box. It is also not new. Someday, when I can afford it, I will be building a new one. Until then this seems to be a dead end that I can't get around and still run my box as I need to in my efforts to keep up on what is happening in the Linux world. boinc is the only application that does not run on this box at the newest version even under Debian Sid running packages from the experimental repo or on Mageia 3 (due to be released this month and running a lot newer kernel. I would mcuh ranter have the fine folks at WCG give some help to thte boinc devs if they have time in their schedule than to play with trying to dumb down science to the lowest denominator. Education is a side benifit to running these projects. I prefer not to get the Readers Digest version although, come to think of it I am of the age I should probably be reading that publication. I signed on here to help. As a ranch hand we try to do the job and "make a hand" of ourselves. I am, al least a hand from the wrist down (sorry ranch humor). I actually think ericinboston is to be commended. While I do not agree with him on much, that is not needed. He has his right to speak up. Seems a lot of folks running anything are only interested in badges. He obviously has more on his mind than that. I have been a member almost 4 years. Have over 4 years of returned work for HCC and over 12 years total returned to WCG in other projects all on this one box. I miss HCC. Loved the consistency and predictablilty of the WUs. Thanks for all your hard work keeping us supplied. Thanks for the ride. |
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twilyth
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I would mcuh ranter have the fine folks at WCG give some help to thte boinc devs if they have time in their schedule than to play with trying to dumb down science to the lowest denominator. Education is a side benifit to running these projects. I prefer not to get the Readers Digest version although, come to think of it I am of the age I should probably be reading that publication. This is what is known as a false dichotomy and if you have an advanced science degree I would hope that this a concept with which you would already be familiar. Your comment seems to imply that if people aren't willing to spend the days and weeks necessary to gain an intimate understanding of not only the scientific concepts involved but also the applicable IOW, by your reasoning, there is no place in this world for science oriented publications directed at lay people like oh, say, Scientific American, Science News, New Scientist, etc. I guess you would say that they're "dumbing things down to the lowest common denominator." At the risk of being insulting, this is what is called an 'elitist attitude.' And coming from someone is called an elitist with some regularity, that's saying something.   [Edit 1 times, last edit by twilyth at May 12, 2013 11:13:36 AM] |
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Sgt.Joe
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Your comment seems to imply that if people aren't willing to spend the days and weeks necessary to gain an intimate understanding of not only the scientific concepts involved but also the applicable argon , well, that's just too d*** bad.  Too gaseous for me Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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twilyth
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Thanks Sarg. I do proof read and catch some mistakes but I seem to miss the really stupid ones. I think it's my inner comic struggling to come out (usually channeling Norm Crosby
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fablefox
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I would mcuh ranter have the fine folks at WCG give some help to thte boinc devs if they have time in their schedule than to play with trying to dumb down science to the lowest denominator. Education is a side benifit to running these projects. I prefer not to get the Readers Digest version although, come to think of it I am of the age I should probably be reading that publication. This is what is known as a false dichotomy and if you have an advanced science degree I would hope that this a concept with which you would already be familiar. Your comment seems to imply that if people aren't willing to spend the days and weeks necessary to gain an intimate understanding of not only the scientific concepts involved but also the applicable IOW, by your reasoning, there is no place in this world for science oriented publications directed at lay people like oh, say, Scientific American, Science News, New Scientist, etc. I guess you would say that they're "dumbing things down to the lowest common denominator." At the risk of being insulting, this is what is called an 'elitist attitude.' And coming from someone is called an elitist with some regularity, that's saying something. And Popular Science! Don't forget Popular Science!  |
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fablefox
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@slades52
----------------------------------------While I love reading scientific publication and science magazines, and able to drill down whatever topic I wanted to, I prefer more on computer science (my area of study) which why I love more info on BOINC, grid computing, hardware, future roadmap and the like instead of proteins and what not. For example recently I watch Nvidia talks (cool intro song!) and loves every bit of it. While I love to read more about science, I wanted to know more about the computer/grid portion of the science instead of the science itself. |
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Former Member
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Thought this statistic rather curious... the rate of registered versus anonymous user of our forums to seek information. Just now:
There are 3169 Online Users (3100 Guests, 69 Members ) If by statistics, 69 would represent the average active user, [71,527 users returned a result in the past 30 days], then 69 : 3100 would stack up to a very big number... 3.2 million. That's then 8 times the raw registered members that BOINC central knows about at this time [405,607] Always look on the bright side of death [or was it life?]. What one can do with statistics...:D |
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fablefox
Senior Cruncher Joined: May 31, 2010 Post Count: 168 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Thought this statistic rather curious... the rate of registered versus anonymous user of our forums to seek information. Just now: There are 3169 Online Users (3100 Guests, 69 Members ) If by statistics, 69 would represent the average active user, [71,527 users returned a result in the past 30 days], then 69 : 3100 would stack up to a very big number... 3.2 million. That's then 8 times the raw registered members that BOINC central knows about at this time [405,607] Always look on the bright side of death [or was it life?]. What one can do with statistics...:D SekeRob, this is what people say "victim of their own success", which is depending on the scenario, is a good thing, just need to be worked on. The high ratio registered to anonymous shows that the few ask the questions, the rest just google to find the answers. This is a good thing. I hate forums/website/whatever that forces you to join to view things. There are forums that forces you to register to use 'search'. There are required to view attached/linked images using the image tag. It really make me angry when you use google to solve a problem, found a forum thread, and you really need to register even to look at image attachment. So don't worry about the anon. You are doing fine. What you should worry is that it shows there is nothing worthy of registering about here. As I mentioned, I just save the link to the graph images and that is all that I need (and what wcg friend could provide, since wcg cannot do it themselves in the front page). |
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de291@comcast.net
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I agree that WCG and the projects should provide easier to understand info about the projects efficacy but I will contribute anyway.
----------------------------------------Also would love to have more ATI GPU work but will look at folding@home when they get the new core up.
David
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