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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Those individuals did join WCG and we have checked their results and all of their results are either pending validation, inconclusive or invalid. They have no valid results. Our validators have kept the data safe. They have no valid results, but they have 1M-2.5M BOINC credits for the last 3 months. :) [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Apr 23, 2013 4:53:19 AM] |
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twilyth
Master Cruncher US Joined: Mar 30, 2007 Post Count: 2130 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Those individuals did join WCG and we have checked their results and all of their results are either pending validation, inconclusive or invalid. They have no valid results. Our validators have kept the data safe. They have no valid results, but they have 1M-2.5M BOINC credits for the last 3 months. :) Is that between all of them? Because if so . . . . . AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!  Morons.I put out 500k per day and I'm running light. Before I had to take down my 2P SR2 rig, it more like 700k. So in other words, was doing in 3 days what it took all 8 of them more than 3 months to accumulate. Oh yeah. Way to "cheat" dipsticks.   [Edit 1 times, last edit by twilyth at Apr 23, 2013 5:47:39 AM] |
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pcwr
Ace Cruncher England Joined: Sep 17, 2005 Post Count: 10903 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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So what did they prove? What were they trying to accomplish? If they were doing it to test their programming / hacking skills, then a case of what is their next target?
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branjo
Master Cruncher Slovakia Joined: Jun 29, 2012 Post Count: 1892 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Those individuals did join WCG and we have checked their results and all of their results are either pending validation, inconclusive or invalid. They have no valid results. Our validators have kept the data safe. They have no valid results, but they have 1M-2.5M BOINC credits for the last 3 months. :) This is not that important. The important is that there were no corrupted results which have to be re-run and also that techs found out how to manage such attacks  Cheers   Crunching@Home since January 13 2000. Shrubbing@Home since January 5 2006  |
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twilyth
Master Cruncher US Joined: Mar 30, 2007 Post Count: 2130 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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So what did they prove? What were they trying to accomplish? If they were doing it to test their programming / hacking skills, then a case of what is their next target? Patrick If you test your so-called hacking skills on a distributed computing project rather than a REAL target, you're what's called a 'putz.' |
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branjo
Master Cruncher Slovakia Joined: Jun 29, 2012 Post Count: 1892 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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So what did they prove? What were they trying to accomplish? If they were doing it to test their programming / hacking skills, then a case of what is their next target? Patrick If you test your so-called hacking skills on a distributed computing project rather than a REAL target, you're what's called a 'putz.' ETA: for Non-native English speakers (me including): putz Cheers Crunching@Home since January 13 2000. Shrubbing@Home since January 5 2006 |
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Eirinaios
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Lol, was about to google it.
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Former Member
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Those individuals did join WCG and we have checked their results and all of their results are either pending validation, inconclusive or invalid. They have no valid results. Our validators have kept the data safe. They have no valid results, but they have 1M-2.5M BOINC credits for the last 3 months. :) This is not that important. The important is that there were no corrupted results which have to be re-run and also that techs found out how to manage such attacks Cheers Now.. Thats funny.  Maybe better to get the head up of the sand.. IF these people have managed to get credit for not valid work.. then they have gotten exactly what they want. And the reason they could do it is because the project actually can Not handle such attacks. Then when its noticed, it should be handled as PrimeGrid did; Fixing the system, and delete credit for not valid work. Thats the only way to say that one doesnt accept cheating. |
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branjo
Master Cruncher Slovakia Joined: Jun 29, 2012 Post Count: 1892 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Those individuals did join WCG and we have checked their results and all of their results are either pending validation, inconclusive or invalid. They have no valid results. Our validators have kept the data safe. They have no valid results, but they have 1M-2.5M BOINC credits for the last 3 months. :) This is not that important. The important is that there were no corrupted results which have to be re-run and also that techs found out how to manage such attacks Cheers Now.. Thats funny. Maybe better to get the head up of the sand.. IF these people have managed to get credit for not valid work.. then they have gotten exactly what they want. And the reason they could do it is because the project actually can Not handle such attacks. Then when its noticed, it should be handled as PrimeGrid did; Fixing the system, and delete credit for not valid work. Thats the only way to say that one doesnt accept cheating. Well, I think all of us can choose our own path or way to the stars. Mine might be full of sand dunes in which I can time-to-time put my head, but it doesn't prevents me to see further than on the tip of my nose. Maybe you could get your head up of the sand and stop trying to glorify PG over WCG in this cause. PG has lost 1 whole month of work while WCG has not lost even a second. You are underrating WCG because cheaters have gotten some credits. So what? They can pave their itinera ad astra with them. You are here much longer than me to know, that WCG is the only project crediting its volunteers even for invalid / inconclusive tasks. This is fair, because it is not always the crunchers' fault when return invalids. But other project are blaming only us for all inconclusives. I am not sure what you mean with "Fixing the system", but I am guessing it has something to do with inability of changing usernames to include asterisks at the end of them... Are credits and asterisks your ultimate goals? Well, have a nice trip. Crunching@Home since January 13 2000. Shrubbing@Home since January 5 2006 [Edit 2 times, last edit by branjo at Apr 23, 2013 8:44:10 PM] |
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twilyth
Master Cruncher US Joined: Mar 30, 2007 Post Count: 2130 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Those individuals did join WCG and we have checked their results and all of their results are either pending validation, inconclusive or invalid. They have no valid results. Our validators have kept the data safe. They have no valid results, but they have 1M-2.5M BOINC credits for the last 3 months. :) This is not that important. The important is that there were no corrupted results which have to be re-run and also that techs found out how to manage such attacks Cheers Now.. Thats funny. Maybe better to get the head up of the sand.. IF these people have managed to get credit for not valid work.. then they have gotten exactly what they want. And the reason they could do it is because the project actually can Not handle such attacks. Then when its noticed, it should be handled as PrimeGrid did; Fixing the system, and delete credit for not valid work. Thats the only way to say that one doesnt accept cheating. I have to agree with branjo although I'll try to be more diplomatic. This project tends to inspire more passion than others and passion easily runs ahead of diplomacy so I don't blame him for that.  A lot of people do compete for points and I imagine that if there were widespread cheating that went unchecked, that could affect morale. So I think there is a lesson to be learned here and I'm sure the staff has taken notice. Specifically, periodic checks need to be run to find members who are accruing a disproportionate number of points from invalid and inconclusive results. It's a simple enough check that will probably be implemented shortly if it hasn't already. However as is often pointed out, if you are here mainly for the points, then you're missing the biggest one - point that is. |
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