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2 or 3 way SLI questions

Hi All..

If this is in the wrong section - apologies.

I had an ECGA GTX570 GPU, and it seemed to be going fine... then KAK... overheated and PPHHTT!

I have just sourced 2 x EVGA GTX 660TI, and I want to run one dedicated to general windows stuff and the other solely to WCG..
Is this possible and how do I do it. If successful, I will get another 660TI and dedicate that to WCG as well.

I have searched the forums, but couldn't find an answer... it could be there, but my eyes are a bit ordinary and I couldnt see stuff really well.

Any help / suggestions much appreciated.

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Re: 2 or 3 way SLI questions

SAme question.
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Re: 2 or 3 way SLI questions

I haven't seen any options for controlling individual cards, as yet. However, I have an ATI 7950 in my wife's 3770K, it's going full tilt with an app_info file, producing 10 workunits every 8 minutes, and there is no lag for 'general windows stuff' - not even a small lag of any kind.

I also had two more 7950s in my 2600K, same deal, same result, for 'general windows stuff'. I even use AutoCAD at the same time, and only notice occasional momentary lags that do not interfere with my work.

As you may already know, the ATI cards are better suited than the nVidias, for doing GPU work on this particular HCC project, so your numbers will be lower.

Best of luck to you, and thanks for your efforts.
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Re: 2 or 3 way SLI questions

You can look at using the following in a cc_config.xml file. Details from here: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

<exclude_gpu>

Don't use the given GPU for the given project. If <device_num> is not specified, exclude all GPUs of the given type. <type> is required if your computer has more than one type of GPU; otherwise it can be omitted. <app> specifies the short name of an application (i.e. the <name> element within the <app> element in client_state.xml). If specified, only tasks for that app are excluded. You may include multiple <exclude_gpu> elements. New in 6.13

<exclude_gpu>
<url>project_URL</url>
[<device_num>N</device_num>]
[<type>nvidia|ati</type>]
[<app>appname</app>]
</exclude_gpu>

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Re: 2 or 3 way SLI questions

I am going to give an experience response here. I am not an I/T or tech person, nor a BOINC genius. But I have been through the GPU mill a couple of times.

Everything I say is just my own experience and anything I say may be disputed by others based upon their experience.

I started with twin GTX580's with and then without and then with SLI. I now have at the computer builders option twin GTX670's.

The original desire for two GPU cards was to crunch two work units at a time. Crunching on two cards was a huge mistake, at least for me.

BOINC wants to be on device 0. My builder wants also to be on device 0.

The considered decision was to enable SLI -although it is much disliked outside of the gamer community. This was to let the twin units act as one big GPU to accomodate both BOINC and the builder. Further, in cc_config, BOINC was told to "ignore dev 1". So, with BOINC and the builder wanting to be on the same card, twin cards with SLI turned out to be a blessing in disguise.

GPU projects are a strange breed. They are all individually compiled. They may or may not "get along" with other GPU projects or with various computers and cards.

My original impetus to run GPU was GPUGrid, a project with exceptional people and values doing great work.

I needed to dismiss GPUGrid for suspicions of its creating computing difficulties.

I drifted toward projects based in Astronomy because my blog has been heavily tilting toward that subject.

I am now running EINSTEIN and SETI on GPU. They seem to get along fine with each other and with my computer, a Maingear Shift Super Stock purchased expressly to crunch GPU work and with no other purpose.

I tried to run MILKY WAY and failed. According to a very major BOINC person, this project has an internal "Resources" problem with OpenCL, which has been forwarded to the project to no avail.

So, don't look for too many settled rules. Try what you want, see what you can get away with, just hope to be successful.

If this post is a bit messy, so has been my experience.
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Re: 2 or 3 way SLI questions

Hi All..

Thanks for the advice..
A quick update.
I''ve installed 2 x EVGA GTX 660TI, and my performance has dropped significantly. I've installed them non sli and get one task each - device 1 and device 0.
I thought I might try the config file option... but the text is a bit hard for me to read... do I have to create a complete config file for all options or can I just put in the bits to exclude one GPU as per the section from rjbelans?.

I also noted that my average output went from about16.5k to 9.8k??

Thanks and CHeers - Seasons greetings and good health to all.
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Re: 2 or 3 way SLI questions

You would create a file called cc_config.xml in the BOINC directory. This would be the same directory containing the file client_state.xml. In the cc_config.xml file, something like this may work:


<cc_config>
<options>
<exclude_gpu>
<url>http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org</url>
<device_num>0</device_num>
<type>nvidia</type>
<app>hcc1</app>
</exclude_gpu>
</options>
</cc_config>
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Re: 2 or 3 way SLI questions


I also noted that my average output went from about16.5k to 9.8k??


From a compute perspective for this project, the NVIDIA 600 is series is much weaker than the 500 Fermi series. This is a result of the architecture. For this project you would have better performance with 2 X 570s or an AMD card.
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Re: 2 or 3 way SLI questions

I tried to run MILKY WAY and failed. According to a very major BOINC person, this project has an internal "Resources" problem with OpenCL, which has been forwarded to the project to no avail.

I don't know anything about that. But Milky Way is special. It's the only project that require GPUs that support double precision math. They also had a NV optimized OpenCL app before one for AMD (since they had a CAL app for AMD that didn't work with the 7xxx series). But the 7970 ran the NV optimized OpenCL app 3x faster than any NV card.
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Re: 2 or 3 way SLI questions

Hi All..

I note Paul Schlaffer's comments about 600 series being weaker than the Fermi 500 series.

My PC bits supplier is happy to go back to EVGA / his distributor and say OI!!. They know what I am using the cards for, and if I can show a documented drop n performance for WCG - using a recognised benchmark proggie, there is a possibility that he will be able to convince them to ante up with an appropriately faster (than the 660ti) card.... at least matching the GTX 570.

Both the the EVGA OC scanner X and Furmark show the 660ti as faster than the 570... I guess not even being aware of WCG.

Is there a proggie that I could use that would show the difference in performance - as relevent to WCG?

Cheers and Thanks
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