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Re: Current status of the Drug Search for Leishmaniasis project

I'm assuming you are also going to install Linux on that machine, which will massively benefit not only because you are using an AMD processor, but because this DSFL and SN2S are using Autodock Vina which runs significantly faster on Linux.


Thanks for the suggestion which I had not considered. A couple of years ago, I used Linux and had many problems. However, if the difference in processing is significant, I might consider it. Do you have, or do you know where I might find comparative performance data?



Here you go

https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,34051

Basically, VINA apps(GFAM, DSFL and SN2S) run 50 or 60 percent faster in Linux 64 bits than in Windows 7 64 bits. Linux mint is easy to use and in some ways similar to windows(has a start menu for instance).


Once I switched my Q9550 rig to Linux Mint 14 Cinnamon 64 bit, I did see about a 40% decrease in the time it took to run GFAM, DSFL, and SN2S WU"s. I also saw about a 40% decrease in the time it took for HCC1 GPU WU's on my HD6670 on the same Q9550 rig using Linux as compared to using Windows 7.

One nice thing about Linux, especially Mint is the support for hyperthreading and multiple cores. So you don't have to fork over $/Loonies to MS for W7Pro or Ultimate.

Another nice thing about the Linux boxes is that you don't have to worry about those pesky W7 updates rebooting your rig every month after Patch Tuesday.

I'd highly recommend Linux Mint 14 Cinnamon over Ubuntu. Mint was much easier for me to grok compared to that wretched Unity interface. I would suggest finding some Linux gurus on your team and/or reading through team notes on BOINC installation. The first time it was painful for me. But it has gotten easier each time I install the distro.The last time I did it, I don't think it took me more than 45 minutes, and that was including setting up a dual boot.
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I don't really understand what your point is regarding 'Linux, especially Mint is the support for hyperthreading and multiple cores.' That's supported by every distribution of Linux, no need for any 'especially' here.

There are so many pros for Linux over Windows that it is silly to not be using Linux. The kernel is significantly more efficient with more hardware support out of the box than Windows. The way the kernel manages memory, and the overhead of the Linux kernel is much smaller than Windows, even Windows XP. Even with a full desktop environment such as a fresh install of Ubuntu, the overhead is still smaller. It's a lot easier to install, maintain, and repair software installations on Linux. Due to the nature of Linux and how all software is compiled with GCC, which is the best compiler to date, all software is sure to run efficiently with little resources so you will definitely see much faster/responsive systems on Linux, therefore faster work unit return rates.

There's nothing 'wretched' about the Unity interface, and the usability is quite fine. However, there is a few people here and there who have an overly sour and unfounded attitude against the Unity interface and Canonical.

There's no need for any 'gurus' at all considering all you have to do to install BOINC on Ubuntu is open the software center, search BOINC, and click install; or type sudo apt-get install boinc-manager.
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Hi mmstick
What people like about Mint is that the interface is intelligible to people who learned on Windows. The reason Mint is so little used is that Microsoft started growling about patents for the Windows interface, which destroyed any chance of developers concentrating on Mint. The great thing about Ubuntu is that China is talking about pushing it. If true, then it might make sense even for non-tech types to spend some time learning how to use Ubuntu.

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Hm the actual Dashboard cannot be opened.
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[ot]Dashboard not opening? Clean cache as it opens for me... the daily upload test[

Mint as what I read some time ago had surpassed Ubuntu, but than that may have been a massaging of statistics: http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operat...lar-linux-distros-1146584 , the LDL&S bit.[/ot]
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Everything OK here. Except of free fall of number of days remaining for DSFL blushing

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Everything OK here. Except of free fall of number of days remaining for DSFL blushing


With only 3 active sciences at the moment (and one of them CEP2, which so many people don't crunch), I guess that's to be expected. But wow -- it is falling fast!
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With only 3 active sciences at the moment (and one of them CEP2, which so many people don't crunch), I guess that's to be expected. But wow -- it is falling fast!
yes, and that's my hope that the WCG techs really throttle back this particular project - so as to provide some variation in selection until a new science comes on-board. As to whether they can 'stretch it out' long enough, only time will tell... Hopefully, SN2S and/or HFCC will return soon - so as to reduce the pressure.
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I'll be turning off my slowest PC if this project finishes before any others come, as it is too slow to run CEP2.

Anyway, I'll have my CEP2 Sapphire badge within a month any way. May even stop crunching for a bit to save on heat and elec bill.

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DSFL target 100 started, currently part 10 (latest is 100-53).

At current speed 2-3 parts per day there is less than 3 weeks of work!
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