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Can anyone help me resolve the following issue that has been plaguing me for the past week.
Things i've tried: Reset project Detached and reattached project Abort and Resume Uninstall BOINC and reinstall Yet the problem persists and it pains me to see all these CPU cycles repeatedly go to waste. I'm out of ideas and am starting to consider dropping WCG altogether. Here's the log 04/19/12 08:13:24 World Community Grid Started download of cfsw_0069_00069599_A00069599.sql 04/19/12 08:13:25 World Community Grid Finished download of cfsw_0069_00069599_A00069599.sql 04/19/12 08:27:35 World Community Grid Task qd534_00090_16 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file 04/19/12 08:27:35 World Community Grid If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project. 04/19/12 08:27:35 World Community Grid Task faah33063_ZINC22215551_x3NF6b_00_0 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file 04/19/12 08:27:35 World Community Grid If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project. 04/19/12 08:27:35 World Community Grid Task GFAM_x3uj7_chnBa_PfPMT_0017267_0082_1 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file 04/19/12 08:27:35 World Community Grid If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project. 04/19/12 08:27:35 World Community Grid Task DSFL_000030-3_0000001_0767_0 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file 04/19/12 08:27:35 World Community Grid If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project. 04/19/12 08:27:35 World Community Grid Task GFAM_x3uj7_chnBa_PfPMT_0017268_0045_1 exited with zero status but no 'finished' file 04/19/12 08:27:35 World Community Grid If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project. 04/19/12 08:27:35 World Community Grid Restarting task qd534_00090_16 using hpf2 version 640 04/19/12 08:27:35 World Community Grid Restarting task faah33063_ZINC22215551_x3NF6b_00_0 using faah version 640 04/19/12 08:27:35 World Community Grid Restarting task GFAM_x3uj7_chnBa_PfPMT_0017267_0082_1 using gfam version 611 04/19/12 08:27:35 World Community Grid Restarting task DSFL_000030-3_0000001_0767_0 using dsfl version 624 04/19/12 08:27:35 World Community Grid Restarting task GFAM_x3uj7_chnBa_PfPMT_0017268_0045_1 using gfam version 611 04/19/12 08:51:42 World Community Grid Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. |
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Sgt.Joe
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What OS and AV are you using ? Check to see if there has been any change or update in your AV. You may have to make sure it allows executables from your BOINC directory.
----------------------------------------Hope this helps.
Sgt. Joe
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I'm on Windows 7, Avast antivirus. No changes or update.
I've added exclusion to the BOINC path for Avast. Also i've set privilleges to administrator. Fingers crossed, will update if it persists or goes away. |
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Hello malcolm.teo,
BOINC issues this message line a lot. As long as the results validate, I just ignore it. If there were a flag I could set to suppress this message line, I would set it. I have a vague superstitious belief that these messages increase when I set preferences that make the program stutter on and off (suspend BOINC if . . . CPU usage < 100% . . . etc.) but I have never seriously checked this. Lawrence |
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Hello lawrencehardin,
Reference: lawrencehardin [Apr 19, 2012 10:40:52 PM] post The people who wrote the code are in the best position to know what conditions trigger the BNFF (but-no-finished-file) message to appear. Was that knowledge shared to WCG staff? To the extent that results validate nonetheless regardless of what may or may not be a fault behind the message, yes, I guess we may all ignore it. But to the extent that the message points to a possible true fault regardless of how the WU validates, no, I think we need to take a closer look at the code. Ironic that the only way to go to have high confidence that the BNFF message can be safely ignored, is to have a close look at the code... ...anyway. ; |
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"Was that knowledge shared to WCG staff?"
What'd you think? Documented in such places as the Start Here forum and a number of wiki's and other help resources, operating as per design... if BOINC is obstructed it takes the safest route to ensure the task has least chance of corruption... regress to last checkpoint. That line most always comes with the by-line: 04/19/12 08:27:35 World Community Grid If this happens repeatedly you may need to reset the project. Does it? Did it do this 100 times at least? If not, set and forget and which is why the Message log tab is nolonger there and replaced by a menu option to access the event log. *important* messages as of version 6.12 appear in the Notices tab and flicker. WCG is using the notices tab to also advice us members on other worthwhile events and cause a pop-up to appear in the system tray, so "Was that knowledge shared to WCG staff?" What'd you think? Yes! --//-- |
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Greetings CA SekeRob.
----------------------------------------Reference: SekeRob [Apr 20, 2012 10:58:31 AM] post Precision is called for, so here goes a more precise rendition of the same question: The people who wrote the code are in the best position to know what conditions trigger the BNFF (but-no-finished-file) message to appear. Was the knowledge -- about what conditions trigger the BNFF message to appear -- shared to the WCG staff? and, if I may add: If the knowledge about what conditions trigger the BNFF message to appear was shared to WCG staff, what are those conditions that trigger the BNFF message to appear? Please share the knowledge about what conditions trigger the BNFF message to appear, in turn, to us crunchers. P.S. Understanding the nature of what causes the BNFF message to appear is part and parcel of any attempt to address the OP's concern. ; ; edit1_2012.04.24Tu.1200.utc > spell-check ; [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Apr 24, 2012 12:00:18 PM] |
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As was tried to convey to you, too, it's not a concern since the second message asks those worrying a question: "If this happens more often..." and the action to take. Did it? The OP starter is crossing fingers and surely will come back if it does.
Till then, as noted we ARE aware of the multitudes of how this non-critical *warning* can occur [till it hits the many], to which the developers have not found a fix let alone a root cause solution, which goes into the fundamentals of how BOINC manages and controls tasks, way outside the area of coverage in these support forums, more fitting to be queried and discussed over at the developers Alpha mail lists. Till now BOINC delivers valid results in the highest percentile. Changing of these controls this is daunting [will require recompile all science apps around the BOINC world, but if you will, you may take it up with Dr. David Anderson. He will tell you in a BOINC's heartbeat (pun intended), why it is how it is. --//-- |
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Greetings CA SekeRob.
Reference: SekeRob [Apr 20, 2012 1:27:21 PM] post Superb answer, CA SekeRob! I'm thrilled ![]() So, one question answered, two questions spawned. I'll leave it at that. thanks ; |
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keithhenry
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I've encountered this message in the past, primarily while crunching CEP2. Now I don't have any grand insight into exactly what's happening but perhaps my experience can be useful. The main impact of the message occurring is that crunching on the associated WU goes back to the last checkpoint. With CEP2, that could have been hours ago. Most other projects checkpoint much more often so the impact is much less. Still, you are losing crunching time and it is taking longer to complete the WUs. My experience with CEP2 indicated that once I started getting these messages, I would continue getting them so I began rebooting that machine when I started seeing the message. Just restarting BOINC didn't seem to help. At the time as well, my crunchers were limited to just 2GB of memory. I upgraded them to 4GB. While not necessarily directly related, this message was pretty much no longer a problem after all this. So, look at how much memory you have and reboot regularly. See if that helps.
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