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Re: Who really can actually check and be sure of what we crunch ?

These things may or may not be true, but to suggest that Grid Computing in general would in any way be a part of that type of research is just not logical.
Don't you think if those people / corporations were doing research like that they wouldn't have whole buildings full of super computers at their disposal ?
I mean "Bill Gates for first , then David Rockefeller , Michael Bloomberg , Peter Peterson , Julian Robertson , John Morgridge , Eli Broad, David Rockefeller Jr, Ted Turner, Oprah Winfrey etc..."
Does anyone really think with all their Billions of $ that they would need to use a Public grid and our wimpy computers ?
I think this world is changing and much of what is going on is really scary , but Grid Computing is about trying to make a positive impact and giving something of ourselves to try to make things better.

All the different sciences have their own resources to find out what they are trying to accomplish if you take the time to look. If you don't believe them , it's time to do something different to make a positive impact in your own way... biggrin
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Dott, if you are requesting to not be laughed at you need to begin your approach differently. Fantastic claims require incredible amounts of proof if they are to be taken seriously, and that proof would need to come from reputable sources.

Just looking at the list of people behind this "project" requires an extreme suspension of disbelief. Most likely those people you have listed have never even met one another.

I, and others, have pointed you in the direction to find the answers you are seeking. Please don't expect to be treated as a rational person when you begin from a very irrational point of view. Nothing personal, but this is the internet.
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I had to comment on this post. Umm.... Bill Gates spends 100's of millions or billions of dollars to The Gates Foundation. Some of his projects are actually INCREDIBLY similar to ours (fighting malaria, developing a nanostructure for water purification) I mean hes not Warren Buffet, but he is a pretty good businessman, and this would seem like (insert funny analogy here).

Read the research page as others have suggested, or even the research articles themselves. Probably won't understand most of it, I don't think many people here do honestly, I know I don't (especially the ones on proteins.) But I do it anyways for a better tomorrow.

Overpopulation is an issue, but don't you think a reputable media outlet would have picked up on all those people wanting to kill the less fortunate?

Last thought, one of the main reasons why I decided to get into grid computing in the first place, specifically WCG (was my first project), is because it's sponsered by IBM, which gave confidence in me to try it out. biggrin

EDIT after above post: Yes, this is the internet and you can post,read,copy, etc. LITERALLY ETC. All day everyday from billions of people. Well you can do all those things now anyways........ Don't know how much this "free internet" thing is going to last myself, but that's a WHOLE nother story angry
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Ok , Tomast , you said what i wanted to listen to.
KWSN - A Shrubbery , i dont mean to proof the misuse of wcg , i started this topic to have confirmation of honest use of it and Tomast gave me the right subject.
All you , even with cheerful spirit , have confirmed to me that we are on the right side of humanity but we never have to lower our guard against the dark side that is always lurking.
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i started this topic to have confirmation of honest use of it
I think it safe to say that no one here feels the need to justify WCG to you. You are free to ask any question you want but no one is required to answer you.
All you , even with cheerful spirit , have confirmed to me that we are on the right side of humanity but we never have to lower our guard against the dark side that is always lurking.
Thank you for highlighting which side you are on. It clears things up for the rest of us. You say lurking, I say trolling.

and a team captain too. WOW
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Astrolabe , great humor from you but little understanding about other's spirit.
first point I never forced anybody to answer
second , if no one feels the need to justify maybe because nobody asked to justify anything but only verify the correctness of the informations
third , you better not speak for other because my right side has nothing to do neither with you nor with others in here.
last but not least ,If you have serious problems to tackle a discussion, you better keep away and for your deep problems with trolls , consult the Lord of the Rings , he can help you
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World Community Grid Forums ยป

Forum: A meeting place for the discussion of questions of public interest.

Guess who said this...
"Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened."
"The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes."
"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life."

It is our duty as responsible citizens of the world to ask questions.
You don't have to agree , and you are free to disagree , but you should at least be courteous and civil with responses.
Non nobis solum nati sumus.

dott ari,
Please don't continue this discussion here any longer.
Nobody will change the other's mind about what they belive or don't belive. It is pointless to continue.
It is my sincere hope that you will mark this thread as "Solved" and move on to other topics of interest... wink
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Thank you Tomast , it looks like someone here has to grow a litte more before facing a serious talk
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You don't have to agree , and you are free to disagree , but you should at least be courteous and civil with responses
and yet you believe that posting a link to a website that supposes Bill Gates is providing funds to support genocide is 'courteous and civil'. I believe my response was much more courteous than your post deserved.

You are correct and I apologize for saying that you demanded an answer. That was incorrect. What I should have said is that the individual research organizations are separately responsible for the research and that there is no moral oversight provided by WCG which works to evaluate the value of the research on individual projects.

ps: Oprah Winfrey is not a Man. I am quite sure that she would not see calling her so to be courteous.
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Let me understand... is it my fault if Bill Gates exposed his thought in a public conference ?
Then i have linked sites to investigate the topic , so all us can make a personal idea about it.
Instead of facing a serious talk, you have attacked me like a Don Chisciotte ,if you disagree , you are free to do but you have to argue what you say instead of attacking me on a personal level.
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