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Ubuntu 11.10 - Unboincable Ocelot?

I recently installed a fresh version of Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot (64-bit) on my old notebook (AMD64X2) - and I'm having various issues getting Boinc to run. I've tried several versions of Boinc which ended up in messing up the system (again: reinstall Ubuntu).

- Installing the Berkeley's recommended version 6.12.34 (64-bit), I'm having trouble configuring gui_rpc_auth and remote_hosts, which are needed for remote access from my Windows machine (BoincTasks). Those two files are all of a sudden read-only. The only way to force-overwrite them is using sudo gedit. Doing so, renders Boinc manager unable to connect to localhost (projects tab empty).

-> Ok, i don't like 6.12.34 anyway, so i checked out 6.10.58:

- Installing Berkeley's 6.10.58 (64-bit), Boinc and it's data directory are apparently both home/Boinc. Upon first start, gui_rpc_auth is automatically created. So i create remote_hosts.cfg manually and configure both of them. Remote access from Windows-BoincTasks is working fine. But: Boinc manager seriously lags behind. BoincTasks has like a 3 second intervall, and is even faster than the local Boinc manager, which takes around 7 seconds. Also, the tasks run highly inefficient (~90%).

Those two installations i did using "sh" in a terminal window. I also tried installing the package from the Software Center which basically is the same problem with 6.12.34. Apart from Boinc issues, i noticed other bugs (touch pad freezes; system hangs upon closing windows). It looks like Unity is messing things up (?)

The same notebook worked all nicely with Ubuntu 10.04 + any Boinc versions. I'm considering downgrading Ubuntu to the LTS version. Has anyone else noticed these issues and found a reasonable way of using Boinc on 11.10 ?
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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 - Unboincable Ocelot?

I have 11.10 and BOINC running on three of my systems with BOINCTasks as well so it is possible. I wish I could be of more help but it looks as if you've done everything correctly as far as I can tell. I'm sure some of the Linux gurus will be able to help more.
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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 - Unboincable Ocelot?

herna, try running Unity 2D. The gloss is quite taxing on some systems [the display drivers are iffy]... full Unity and Gnome 3.0. I've got xfce running for lowest graphics load and only after quite a few months of tweaking have 11.10 at a satisfactory performance level with Unity/Gnome 3.39, BOINCTasks in Wine 1.4. There's a 6.10.58 deb package to be had [links somewhere on forums] that installs perfectly out of the box.

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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 - Unboincable Ocelot?

herna,

The way i would recommend is to do:

sudo apt-get install boinc-client


This will install the base agent. No manager installed as your machine could be headless :) All my lab machines are this way. And all attaches/edits are done through boinc manager on another machine.

Next, you'll want to change your gui_rpc_auth file like you have done so before.

After that, you'll need to update the /etc/init.d/boinc-client file using sudo rights again. Within there, you'll need to change the line that has BOINC_OPTS= to include --allow_remote_gui_rpc similar to this:

BOINC_OPTS="--allow_remote_gui_rpc --check_all_logins --redirectio --dir $BOINC_DIR $BOINC_OPTS"


Save the file then run:

sudo /etc/init.d/boinc-client restart


Now try to connect using the boinc manager on another machine.

The reason those two files are read only is for security reasons. You don't want any user to be able to allow access into your machine if it has multiple users. Also, if your computer is behind a router and within your own network, you may not need to add anything to remote_hosts file.

Thanks,
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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 - Unboincable Ocelot?

Thanks for your answers :)
Don't have much time right now, but I'll try your suggestions tomorrow.

Right now I have an (once more freshly installed) Ubuntu 11.10 running and installed the Gnome Shell package. Then I logged in to Gnome Classic. Boinc 6.10.58 performance looks a little better now. However, there's still something odd with the local Boinc Manager: It doesn't update any content until I move the mouse pointer. I'll post again how your suggestions worked out.

Tried Unity 2D once before, it silently crashed :/
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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 - Unboincable Ocelot?

I experienced that same bug with the display not updating till the mouse pointer moved. I just ignored it. If you'll be accessing that machine via the network anyway then it's irrelevant. If you're definitely after the most output you can get from the machine and don't mind learning a little command line stuff then ditch the GUI/desktop completely and run it as a "server" install. That way you can administer BOINC remotely and not waste CPU cycles on pretty effects you don't want anyway.
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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 - Unboincable Ocelot?

I am running Xubuntu 11.10 on 3 machines. I used the procedure that Uplinger described above some time ago, and have had no trouble with how BOINC runs nor with accessing through BoincTasks from a Windows machine.

Xubuntu is Ubuntu with the lighter-weight XFCE user interface. I haven't made a direct comparison, but I would guess BOINC probably runs a little better under it than under Ubuntu with the more resource-demanding Unity interface.
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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 - Unboincable Ocelot?

After that, you'll need to update the /etc/init.d/boinc-client file using sudo rights again. Within there, you'll need to change the line that has BOINC_OPTS= to include --allow_remote_gui_rpc similar to this:

BOINC_OPTS="--allow_remote_gui_rpc --check_all_logins --redirectio --dir $BOINC_DIR $BOINC_OPTS"

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While using --allow_remote_gui_rpc, or the equivalent <allow_remote_gui_rpc> as an <options> in cc_config.xml is possible for testing-purposes, it's highly recommended for security-reasons to use remote_hosts.xml instead, so not everyone can connect and try guessing your password.
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Re: Ubuntu 11.10 - Unboincable Ocelot?

Thanks again for all your suggestions.
I need to re-install Linux again, but i'll let it crunch its cache first. As it got some Betas yesterday, it's gonna take 10 more hours to finish. Still need to decide which distro.
I give the old system one more shot by installing a LXDE environment on top, but a clean Lubuntu distro would probably do better. After all, the only reason why i kicked 10.04 was replacing the alongside OS Vista by Win 7. Ridding off Vista but getting Unity instead :/
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