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Re: Card Info From First Beta Test

I note that most or all of the cards that gave errors also appear in the lists of cards that returned valid results ... I guess that one of the next steps here is to figure out what determines whether these cards give a valid or erroneous result.


Yup - lots to figure out. We are looking for obvious issues first, then we will start looking at the cards that sometimes fail and sometimes succeed.

In the ATI lists, HD 5700, HD 5800 and HD 5x00 cards appear twice, but are written without a space between the HD and the 5 in the 2nd instances. Deliberate?

That is how BOINC is reporting them and I cut and pasted the list. Probably a bug in one of the versions that was later fixed.
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Re: Card Info From First Beta Test

Any news on when the Beta will be opened up to linux users? I'd like to have a try at some GPU betas as well to see if they run ok.
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No news. Think there's serious hands-full on the Windows version as it is. ;)

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Re: Card Info From First Beta Test

FYI, my BOINC Manager 6.12.34 (x64) is reporting my HIS ATI Radeon 6770 HD as:

3/14/2012 12:31:55 PM | | ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD 5700 series (Juniper) (CAL version 1.4.1664, 1024MB, 1360 GFLOPS peak)


Just thought you might like to know this in case it makes any difference.
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Re: Card Info From First Beta Test

I do not see any reports about nVidia cards older than 4xx series. I'm wondering if the requirements for beta GPU excludes them?
My nVidia GTX280 (Vista 32bit, driver version 29610, CUDA version 4020, 1024MB, 622 GFLOPS peak), reports compute capability 1.3, but has not seen any GPU beta workunits so far.
Bad luck? Needs to upgrade my PC?
EDIT: a laptop with GF 540M (Windows 7 64bit, compute capability 2.1) has no luck yet as well :/
Of course, all the required options are set according to the instructions.
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Re: Card Info From First Beta Test

I do not see any reports about nVidia cards older than 4xx series. I'm wondering if the requirements for beta GPU excludes them?
My nVidia GTX280 (Vista 32bit, driver version 29610, CUDA version 4020, 1024MB, 622 GFLOPS peak), reports compute capability 1.3, but has not seen any GPU beta workunits so far.
Bad luck? Needs to upgrade my PC?
EDIT: a laptop with GF 540M (Windows 7 64bit, compute capability 2.1) has no luck yet as well :/
Of course, all the required options are set according to the instructions.

Hello Katoda
The GTX280 will work just fine although the 296.10 driver has reported problems. Don't worry, it is just luck. I don't think there were any Nvidia wu's in the last test. Hang in there as there will be a lot more testing before HCC GPU is ready for "prime time." coffee

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Re: Card Info From First Beta Test

I think it will mostly depend on the Driver Version also to some extent the operating system and power supply.


I agree it would be nice if we could get a list going of cards returning valid results what they are running for drivers, OS, and boinc client.

It would also be nice to maybe have a list for people with invalids to help figure out what drivers, OS and boinc client may need to be avoided.


I have a Windows 64bit Win 7 Ultimate machine running Boinc version 6.12.34 and it has two AMD 5770 gpu's in it that consistently fails when trying to run a gpu unit on the first gpu, gpu 0. I also run Moo on that machine and it uses BOTH gpu's, on the Moo workunits, and I am wondering it that is the problem. Could Moo not be giving up a gpu and the WCG unit is erroring out because of it? This is my log:

Result Log

Result Name: BETA_ X0000130860777201112120934_ 1--
<core_client_version>6.12.34</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
All pipe instances are busy. (0xe7) - exit code 231 (0xe7)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
Commandline: projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcg_beta3_img_6.44_windows_intelx86__ati14_opencl X0000130860777201112120934.jp2 --device 0
Boinc requested ATI gpu device number0
ERROR: .\VerifyGPU.cpp:63 Unknown
15:05:22 (3276): called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
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Re: Card Info From First Beta Test

I note that most or all of the cards that gave errors also appear in the lists of cards that returned valid results ... I guess that one of the next steps here is to figure out what determines whether these cards give a valid or erroneous result.


Yup - lots to figure out. We are looking for obvious issues first, then we will start looking at the cards that sometimes fail and sometimes succeed.

If I might interject some Folding wisdom, perhaps known to you all anyway, the first question that they ask is "Are you overclocking?". The usual answer is "Yes, but my card works fine for games".

The discussion then proceeds to point out that number crunching uses different portions of the GPU than games, and any errors cause a "fail" with science projects, whereas you probably wouldn't even notice them in games. The still further part of the discussion relates to overheating. Most cards will do OK to 80C, but some will fail to crunch numbers properly even below that. You find out the hard way, but you have to keep them cool!
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Re: Card Info From First Beta Test

I would like a little clarification please....in order to get the gpu Beta units I need to go into my projects and check BOTH get the gpu units if available AND to get HCC units too, correct? Just checking to get gpu units is NOT sufficient, correct?


No, in order to get Beta WUs you need to do two things:

1. On the "Beta Testing" panel you need to have the "Participate in Beta Testing" checked for the profile(s) you have assigned to the device(s).
2. On the "Device Manager->Device Profiles" panel you need to have "If my computer can process work on my graphics card, then please send me work to run on my graphics card for the projects that I have selected above." checked in the profile you have assigned to the device(s).

Note, the Device Profile verbage is misleading for Beta work. You do not need to have the HCC project selected in the profile to get Betas, just the two things above.


THANK YOU, I have unchecked the HCC box and have made sure #2 is done also, I am awaiting some Beta units now!

Is it also neccessary to have 'Use GPU whie computer is in use' in BOINC settings for each of your machines ticked, or will this option be bypassed by the profile you use to 'trap' beta WUs?
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Re: Card Info From First Beta Test

What Bill gave is "What to receive", which as with any project can only be defined in My Projects or the device profiles. The "When to process" is strictly a client internal scheduling matter [Which option I'm kind of expecting to appear on the website profile no later than the Beta moving to production]. If it would have influence, no one would ever have a GPU task on the device for an available resource unless keeping off.

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