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Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
For our rigs running WCG furiously and long term one sollicited piece of equipment is the CPU cooler. If we want to overclock strongly then he better be good but also reliable.
----------------------------------------When I started with my first rigs (medium tower) I installed as a standard air CPU cooler the Asus Triton 88. It was excellent for the 1366 socket and allowed for good overclocking of the 980X but not extreme. I still have some of them running after three years and they are dying slowly. In fact their limitation is that the internal fan cannot be changed and when due to ball bearing wear the fan starts to vibrate and wobble, it starts scratching the fins and at this point the cooler is dead. This is now what is happening to all of them. I have two frame size for my rigs, a medium tower (ATX format board) and a small tower for microATX board. The Triton 88 being too large, the best I could find for the small tower was the Zalman CNPS10X Extreme which just fit to the millimeter into the existing volume. Installing it is a real pain. Running at max speed the noise is not a problem and the result is excellent on the 980X at 4.0 Ghz. Over the last year I tested a few replacement for the Triton, like the Corsair water series H80, H100, but these finally have not given satisfaction at all. I still have on H80 running with acceptable performance but not better than with a good air unit. Another H80 died when the cooling circuit stopped to work. The H100 was marred by a poor geometric design that did not allow a perfect match on the CPU head, hence poor cooling, and the very large radiator is nearly impossible to install properly except in a specific Corsair casing. When recently my H80 died on Pluto rig, by chance my thermal protection on the Intel 980X did switch off the rig at 101 Deg Centigrade. It was amazing to look at the core temp rise slowly from 25 up to 101 and then poof. The 980X is really a robust CPU with an excellent design, because I had to do a few test before understanding what happened. So the CPU did switch off at 101 a few times, and now this CPU runs at 55 Deg flawlessly. My new standard for the larger rig is now the Noctua DH14 with two fans, one of 120mm and one of 140mm. The two fans can be taken out and changed. So as long as replacement fans are available this cooler if properly mantained could last many years. I have a few running now on the 980Xs and one on my unique 3960X and they have the best cooling performance I ever had. The only limitation is that you have to install DDR3 Ram with a low profile. You cannot use the sticks that have large cooling fins or a ventilator cooler block on top like the Corsair. The Noctua is not cheap but it is in the Triton 88 price range so amortization will be excellent. ![]() [Edit 2 times, last edit by Hypernova at Mar 8, 2012 12:18:04 PM] |
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Former Member
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Do you prefer the Noctua over the hyper212?
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Thargor
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I'm currently running a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme heatsink with a Scythe Gentle Typhoon 3000rpm fan, which keeps my i7-920 at 50-55C under full load.
----------------------------------------I tried it with the 5400rpm version of the same fan, which kept it at 45-50C under full load, but also required ear-protectors as it runs at around 51dB - not ideal for anything but a server. The name is much of a misnoma, there's nothing "gentle" about it! ![]() Heatsink: (Link) Fan (3000rpm): (Link) Fan (5400rpm): (Link) ![]() |
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depriens
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I'm currently running a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme heatsink with a Scythe Gentle Typhoon 3000rpm fan, which keeps my i7-920 at 50-55C under full load. I tried it with the 5400rpm version of the same fan, which kept it at 45-50C under full load, but also required ear-protectors as it runs at around 51dB - not ideal for anything but a server. The name is much of a misnoma, there's nothing "gentle" about it! ![]() Heatsink: (Link) Fan (3000rpm): (Link) Fan (5400rpm): (Link) If you are running at stock speed and prefer your computer to run both cool and quiet, you could consider undervolting the CPU. I did it to my i7-920 (@2,8 GHz) with a Scythe Mugen cooler and it runs continuously between 38 and 45 degreesC at full load. I have to mention that this is in a dusty computer case with bad airflow. Nice side effect is that it dramatically decreases the power consumption of your system. To be honest, for me this was the reason for the undervolt! ![]() [edit] Too bad that I can't seem to undervolt my laptop (Dell Latitude E6420 with a i7-2720QM). If anyone knows how to do this, please let me know! ![]() ![]() [Edit 2 times, last edit by depriens at Mar 8, 2012 4:41:52 PM] |
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Bugg
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I'm seriously loving my Hyper 212+, personally. So glad my friend recommended it to me. I'm running my i5 2500k at 4.4GHz right now and it's keeping it at 59-60C for main core, and the other 3 are running at 61-63C. :D
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Former Member
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Note some of the best air cooling for cpu fans are those meant for overclocked gaming rigs. They are quite large so both the motherboard size and the case have to be taken into account.
Plus they tend to last for five years. |
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mikey
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I'm seriously loving my Hyper 212+, personally. So glad my friend recommended it to me. I'm running my i5 2500k at 4.4GHz right now and it's keeping it at 59-60C for main core, and the other 3 are running at 61-63C. :D The Hyper212+ is STILL rated VERY highly by MaximumPC and it has been out for a couple of years now!! According to the website: "Versatile all-in-one mounting solution for Intel Socket LGA1366/1156/1155/775 and AMD Socket AM3/AM2+/AM2." http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6603 And it is only $33US right now thru Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 And only $29.99US at Fry's: http://www.frys.com/product/5971334 ![]() ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by mikey159b at Mar 9, 2012 1:31:37 PM] |
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Bugg
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The biggest drawback to the Hyper 212+ was the lack of good instructions describing/showing where and how the backplate gets mounted. Other than that, it wasn't so bad. :)
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I use the 212+ also and there are several sites with video showing how to completely set up..
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Bugg
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I use the 212+ also and there are several sites with video showing how to completely set up.. The drawback to those sites: if you're setting up the ONLY computer you have because your old one took a dump, then you can't access them. ![]() i5-12600K (3.7GHz), 32GB DDR5, Win11 64bit Home |
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