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Papa3
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iPad agent?

Trying to download WCG software to an iPad 2 - no luck!

Download page identifies platform as Apple, but then the error message comes: "Safari can't download" (paraphrased).

Is tablet compatibility coming soon?
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Hello Papa3,
The iPad is an ARM-architecture CPU. ARM is normally used for low-power applications. WCG projects tend to be compute-intensive high-power high-throughput applications. Aside from some legacy PPC projects, we concentrate on x86 applications.

I have not heard of any proposed ARM projects and I personally doubt that there will be any. You might want to check Distributed Computing ( http://www.distributedcomputing.info/ ) to see if any are coming. Some human-distributed projects would probably run well on an ARM computer.

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Re: iPad agent?

If Papa3 is Ranked 180 or so at WCG with well over 100 years CPU time.....where are all the sapphire badges?
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If Papa3 is Ranked 180 or so at WCG with well over 100 years CPU time.....where are all the sapphire badges?


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This isn't UD, Scribe. We're allowed to choose what we want to run here, and some people choose to run just the one sub-project that matters the most to them.
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Re: iPad agent?

Please see the post below by knreed.

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/...d,30185_offset,120#354845
Once we have stabilized things after the server code update and we see how things are doing in beta testing we will look at 'balance' issues. As an early preview on our thoughts, credit/points has always been the metric most designed to reflect the contributed computing power directly (and thus reflects whether you are contributing time from PII or a i7) while runtime reflects the time that a workunit was allowed to be running on a resource. Any policy changes that we make need to not only consider cpu vs gpu, but also consider the impact of contribution from Android on ARM and computers with cpus that have cores that perform at different speeds that will be part of the environment over the next 18-24 months. Additionally, given the explosion of cores on machines, we are starting to look at if any of the apps we have run or will be running can be multi-threaded and use more than one cpu cores (note - a lot of the apps we have are not designed to be multi-threaded so this can only be done if the app itself is already multi-threaded). This will become important to reduce the RAM being used on volunteers machines with many concurrently running tasks. We expect to have a range computers that have a 100-1000 fold performance difference between them over the next 24 months. There are going to be a lot of challenges determining what is 'fair' and yet be motivational for all contributors over that period.


OK, this doesn't specifically state that WCG will have projects for ARM up and running within 24 months, but the infrastructure will be prepared for it. My conclusion is that the WCG techs won't prepare the infrastructure if - on the long run - they don't see a future for these ARM applications.
When ARM/Android science applications are available, it should only be a matter of time before they are ported to iOS I guess.
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Re: iPad agent?

And...what about tablets with Windows 8, will be directly compatible?
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Not necessarily. Windows 8 will come in two versions, for ARM and x86, and applications from one of them won't run on the other. (Not without a rewrite and recompile, anyway.)

So you would need to check the type of processor the tablet is using. Most tablets will probably be ARM, but there has been talk about x86 tablets too. (They would be larger and require more power, so it remains to be seen whether x86 tablets will sell.)

Edit:
x86 tablets/slates -example - have actually been on the market for a decade, but with so little sales that most people haven't even heard about them.

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Just an FYI I am running a lenovo x220 corei7 with Window Developer Preview (Windows 8 x86) and the WCG client installed and is running fine. So it works great straight out of the box with Windows 8
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... Window Developer Preview (Windows 8 x86) ...
You may find this thread informative.
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