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Inconclusive Results across 4 different machines

Got several inclonclusive returns on four machines, one was and I7 920, two sandy bridge all running Win 7 and one a dual core atom runing linux mint. between 9/11 and 9/13. any one else?

I've read in some of the forums that these could reslove. Advice?


Partial list of inconclusive results


Project Name: Computing for Clean Water
Created: 09/12/2011 01:46:52
Name: c4cw_target04_121257338
Minimum Quorum: 1
Replication: 2


Project Name: Computing for Clean Water
Created: 09/10/2011 19:12:36
Name: c4cw_target04_120289981
Minimum Quorum: 1
Replication: 2

Project Name: Computing for Clean Water
Created: 09/10/2011 18:56:19
Name: c4cw_target04_120199879
Minimum Quorum: 1
Replication: 2



Result Name App Version Number Status Sent Time Time Due /
Return Time CPU Time (hours) Claimed/ Granted BOINC Credit
c4cw_ target04_ 120199879_ 1-- - In Progress 9/15/11 17:11:19 9/19/11 17:11:19 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
c4cw_ target04_ 120199879_ 0-- 641 Inconclusive 9/12/11 14:21:44 9/15/11 17:08:22 2.58 92.3 / 0.0

Project Name: Computing for Clean Water
Created: 09/10/2011 18:53:43
Name: c4cw_target04_120181863
Minimum Quorum: 1
Replication: 2



Result Name App Version Number Status Sent Time Time Due /
Return Time CPU Time (hours) Claimed/ Granted BOINC Credit
c4cw_ target04_ 120181863_ 1-- - In Progress 9/15/11 14:39:00 9/19/11 14:39:00 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
c4cw_ target04_ 120181863_ 0-- 641 Inconclusive 9/12/11 13:57:50 9/15/11 14:34:23 2.62 95.0 / 0.0

Project Name: Computing for Clean Water
Created: 09/10/2011 18:53:43
Name: c4cw_target04_120181863
Minimum Quorum: 1
Replication: 2
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Re: Inconclusive Results across 4 different machines

Yes, generally Inconclusive results do resolve themselves, and this is part of the normal verification process - particularly with Zero Redundancy projects.

Basically, it's just checking/verifying that your machine(s) are still returning valid (i.e. useful) results to the scientists. As to when/which machines these occur in, it's just luck of the draw...
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Re: Inconclusive Results across 4 different machines

Yes, generally Inconclusive results do resolve themselves, and this is part of the normal verification process - particularly with Zero Redundancy projects.

Basically, it's just checking/verifying that your machine(s) are still returning valid (i.e. useful) results to the scientists. As to when/which machines these occur in, it's just luck of the draw...



Hi, qb007961:

Thanks for this response which makes sense. I have just found two "invalid" returns in C4CW WUs. As I have 1,904 returns and 1,069,453 points it appeared immaterial to me and I decided not to report it. As another cruncher did so, I will move along. I hope you are having sunshine in your remote Scottish location. Still dark here...

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Re: Inconclusive Results across 4 different machines

If you click on the work unit name you should see it has been sent to someone else to be checked.

Sometimes this could be rendered valid or invalid.

Had a couple of invalids due to a system freeze and reboot. Think of it this way out of hundreds of results you are going to have a few go bad every now and again due to various errors that can occur on the wcg side and your side. If the vast majority of results are valids then don't worry.

It's time to worry if you get a dozen bads in a row.
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Re: Inconclusive Results across 4 different machines

I'm having this issue on every cruncher running this project. Never seen it before with C4CW. 2 pages of inconclusive/error.
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Re: Inconclusive Results across 4 different machines

Most of mine have been rendered valid after being sent to someone else. The weird thing is the other workunits had version 640 or 642 instead of 641.
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Re: Inconclusive Results across 4 different machines

Out of 8 devices crunching this project, 4 currently have one each "Inconclusive" results. I see that status every so often (don't have a record of dates or times) and all have changed to "Valid" once the wingman processes the WU, no "Errors" or "Invalids" listed in my results status list for this project.

My Linux and Windows x64 devices have app version 641, but the Mac x64 devices have version 642.

For me, everything seems to be purring right along. coffee
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Re: Inconclusive Results across 4 different machines

I'm getting more and more inconclusive and now invalid results on this project for no apparrant reason across all crunchers. I may be dropping this project if this isn't cleared up. Too much wasted CPU time.
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Re: Inconclusive Results across 4 different machines

You may want to post the details of the invalid messages. It could be on your end. For example have you run a virus scan using updated detection definitions? Had any bluescreens or other pc errors?
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Re: Inconclusive Results across 4 different machines

You may want to post the details of the invalid messages. It could be on your end. For example have you run a virus scan using updated detection definitions? Had any bluescreens or other pc errors?

If it was happening on 1 machine I wouldn't be concerned but this is happening on multiple machines that never had this issue before.
Here invalid details.

Result Log

Result Name: c4cw_ target04_ 156550915_ 0--
<core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version>
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Commandline = projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcg_c4cw_lmps_6.41_windows_x86_64 -screen none -in in.wcg.acc -var wcgsteps1 10000 -var wcgsteps2 10000 -var loop 0 -var restart 0 -var rinterval 100 -var ifile in.wcg.acc -var wcgseed 156550915
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Commandline = projects/www.worldcommunitygrid.org/wcg_c4cw_lmps_6.41_windows_x86_64 -screen none -in in.wcg.acc -var wcgsteps1 10000 -var wcgsteps2 10000 -var loop 0 -var restart 0 -var rinterval 100 -var ifile in.wcg.acc -var wcgseed 156550915
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