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Re: Linux for the Leishmaniasis (DSFL) project?

If I restarting the system the cpu efficiency goes down to 5-15%. I updated Linux (Version 11.04) and installed 2 packages (libstdc++5, freeglut3) before, but it brings nothing.
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Re: Linux for the Leishmaniasis (DSFL) project?

IMHO the root cause of your performance problem is probably not located by boinc respectively DSFL but in your system configuration.
By the way, the mentioned Linux based hosts are two Phenom II x6 and one Athlon II x2. The Windows XP Pro based host is a Q6600.
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Re: Linux for the Leishmaniasis (DSFL) project?

I use a Intel Core2Duo with w7 64bit and there is no probleme with finishing the WU's. But my Server with AMD Phenom II X6 1090T with Linux Ubuntu 64 bit produced only Errors and i don't no why. There is no finished one, since i start with the project.

All 7 DSFL WUs that I've run on my Phenom II X4 910e under Ubuntu 10.04.3 64-bit have completed successfully (6 valid, 1 PV). Also both WUs that I've gotten on my AMD Fusion machine running Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit have completed and validated.

So neither AMD CPU, nor 64-bit Linux, nor their combination, torpedoes DSFL. I'm running desktop Ubuntu rather than the server version, by the way.

The bolded system is exactly what I'm running and I've had zero errors on over 50 tasks thus far. It's not Linux or the CPU causing your problem.
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Re: Linux for the Leishmaniasis (DSFL) project?

My previous remark was not focused on Linux furthermore on the other applications and services running on the host.
After nearby 30 36 CPU days of valid result, I have only 2 4 WUs to report as invalid and still no error.
Yves
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Re: Linux for the Leishmaniasis (DSFL) project?

I'll bite. I have one dual-boot machine (all my others are Linux only).

I'll run exclusively DSFL on the Windows side for a few days, then switch over and do nothing but DSFL on Linux. Will report back.

The variability in DSFL task runtimes has been way too high for me to try to make any comparisons. If the runtimes settle down later on, I may try.
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Re: Linux for the Leishmaniasis (DSFL) project?

I have Ubuntu 10.10 crunching 15 threads with no issues. The run times range from 6 to 10 hrs though. Not sure if this is normal or not. My win7 64 seems to crunch these fine also but take a little longer.
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Re: Linux for the Leishmaniasis (DSFL) project?

Going by what Uplinger said and others observed in the Looong running WUs thread, there have been changes in task length, and there will be more.
Until we know for sure that they have settled on a size range and that WU length is the same for both Linux and Windows, there is not much point making performance comparisons.
As for why, I'm guessing the techs are trying to make the tasks returned stats and ranks more meaningful. I think it also helps Boinc if tasks from the one project are the same or similar length.

So, in a few weeks it might be worth another look.
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Re: Linux for the Leishmaniasis (DSFL) project?

biggrin skgiven is right!

Almost eEvery new project has an algorithm for sizing and creating work units from the work that the project scientists want done. There is almost always a lot of experimenting to make the algorithm work well and sometimes we have to throw our hands in the air and accept a lot of variation.

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Re: Linux for the Leishmaniasis (DSFL) project?

Since badges are based on CPU time, the fact that windows may run the same work unit a little longer is a plus, in my opinion.

My main concern is why some work units run with terrible efficiency. e.g.



C2Q6660 is an Intel Q6600 running fedora 32-bit with the fedora-issued BOINC 6.10.45; I have 2 other machines with that same version of fedora and BOINC, but with AMD processors, that I've never seen get 'stuck' with such poor efficiency (~12%) work units.
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Re: Linux for the Leishmaniasis (DSFL) project?

Hello ZoSo,
Are your Intel CPUs using hyperthreading? This will present the appearance of terrible inefficiency, but in reality the CPU will produce about 15% more per unit time than it would without hyperthreading. Since this is done by using 2 threads per unit time, the reported efficiency will be 115% / 2 or 57% efficiency per task if both tasks are treated equally. If one task is favored, then the other task will look even worse.

Lawrence

Added: smile What was I thinking? Ingleside is right. Ignore this befuddled post.
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