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You're right, David - another guitar poet. I dl his "Forward" album and Tommy Emmanuel's "Endless Road".

I've found precious few poems that can match in words what these guys do with music. I suppose that's a quality of music itself - something in the brain, in perception, makes its beauty far more accessible than that of words, even when words arrive as sound. I think maybe music's link to the mind is much more direct than language's, which maybe has to go through some kind of translation/interpretation app. So to speak.

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Bobble hatted Girl
Scarf slung over shoulder, devil may care
The foot stamping, glove clapping,
ruddy faced smile that doesn't give a hoot for haute couture
Still breath hangs in a crystalline cloud.

..I'm in love again.







If only, but you know what I mean love struck

Talking of which, from the Diana Panton Red Album (Made famous by the Glen Miller Band)

"I know why (and so do you)"

You possess a magic something
That has me spellbound when you are near
Just a certain charming something
When you're beside me miracles appear

For when I look at you life's a grand illusion

Why do robins sing in December
Long before the springtime is due?
And even though it's snowing, violets are growing
I know why and so do you

Why do breezes sigh every evening
Whispering your name as they do?
And why have I the feeling stars are on my ceiling?
I know why and so do you

When you smile at me, I hear gypsy violins
When you dance with me
I'm in heaven when the music begins

I can see the sun when it's raining
Hiding every cloud from my view
And why do I see rainbows when you're in my arms?
I know why and so do you

I know why and so do you

"Mack Gordon, lyrics, and Harry Warren, music"

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Hi William, I enjoy Erik and Tommy's music because it speaks without words.
The interpretation is yours. There's no hook for the clutter and it's message changes as you do, day by day.

That said the Tune above, as sung by Diana, is stunningly beautiful
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Death Fugue
by Paul Celan

Black milk of daybreak we drink it at evening
we drink it at midday and morning we drink it at night
we drink and we drink
we shovel a grave in the air there you won't lie too cramped
A man lives in the house he plays with his vipers he writes
he writes when it grows dark to Deutschland your golden hair Marguerite
he writes it and steps out of doors and the stars are all sparkling
he whistles his hounds to come close
he whistles his Jews into rows has them shovel a grave in the ground
he orders us strike up and play for the dance

Black milk of daybreak we drink you at night
we drink you at morning and midday we drink you at evening
we drink and we drink
A man lives in the house he plays with his vipers he writes
he writes when it grows dark to Deutschland your golden hair Margeurite
your ashen hair Shulamith we shovel a grave in the air there you won't lie too cramped
He shouts jab this earth deeper you lot there you others sing up and play
he grabs for the rod in his belt he swings it his eyes are blue
jab your spades deeper you lot there you others play on for the dancing

Black milk of daybreak we drink you at night
we drink you at midday and morning we drink you at evening
we drink and we drink
a man lives in the house your goldenes Haar Margeurite
your aschenes Haar Shulamith he plays with his vipers
He shouts play death more sweetly Death is a master from Deutschland
he shouts scrape your strings darker you'll rise then in smoke to the sky
you'll have a grave then in the clouds there you won't lie too cramped

Black milk of daybreak we drink you at night
we drink you at midday Death is a master aus Deutschland
we drink you at evening and morning we drink and we drink
this Death is ein Meister aus Deutschland his eye it is blue
he shoots you with shot made of lead shoots you level and true
a man lives in the house your goldenes Haar Margarete
he looses his hounds on us grants us a grave in the air
he plays with his vipers and daydreams
der Tod is ein Meister aus Deutschland
dein goldenes Haar Margarete
dein aschenes Haar Shulamith


(Translated by John Felstiner)
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as long as I seem to be in a death fugue...

One of the Laws
by W.S. Merwin

So it cannot be done to live
without being the cause of death
we know it in our blood running
unacknowledged even by us
we know it in each of our dreams
and in the new day's rising we
recognize it one more time
address it by another name

it is the need to tell ourselves
how it is not our fault that makes
it more terrible the hunger
to pardon ourselves because of
who we are the earnest belief
that we have a right to it from
somewhere because we deserve one

that brings up the pain of birth to
become cruelty and raises
story upon story cities
to indifference denying
existence to most suffering
while living off it kept alive
by it called by it from moment
to moment and by the right name

The Pupil
Copyright 2001 by W.S. Merwin
Alfred A. Knopf, New York


it sends a chill through me, so knifelike is its strike dead-center at our reality as humans being, how we feed upon death, our planet is carrion, we are carrion and we are vultures, we hiss and squawk and flap our wings fighting for the choicest bits, gorging on us, we lie to ourselves about who and what we are, and we handle our truth badly, a strenuous denial:
eat and be eaten? that cannot be us!

this stark truth of what it means to be human, a sense of forboding, as if I'm being warned:
this cannot continue indefinitely
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Dave - Poetry is song without music. I know why and so do you
is an old classic - as is
Turn the Page

On a long and lonesome highway, east of Omaha
You can listen to the engine moanin' out it's one note song
You can think about the woman, or the girl you knew the night before
But your thoughts will soon be wandering, the way they always do
When you're riding sixteen hours and there's nothing there to do
And you don't feel much like riding, you just wish the trip was through

Here I am, on the road again
There I am, on the stage
Here I go, playing star again
There I go, turn the page

Well you walk into a restaurant all strung out from the road
And you feel the eyes upon you as you're shaking off the cold
You pretend it doesn't bother you, but you just want to explode

Most times you can't hear 'em talk, other times you can
All the same old cliche's, is it woman is it man?
You always seem outnumbered, so you don't dare make a stand

Here I am, on the road again
There I am, on the stage
Here I go, playing star again
There I go, turn the page

Out there in the spotlight you're a million miles away
Every ounce of energy, you try to give away
As the sweat pours out your body like the music that you play

Later in the evening as you lie awake in bed
With the echoes from the amplifiers ringin' in your head
You smoke the days last cigarette, remembering what she said

Here I am, on the road again
There I am, up on the stage
Here I go, playing star again
There I go, turn the page

ONLY THE BIRDS
ARE ABLE
TO THROW OFF
THEIR SHADOWS

William - Your last two selections were descriptive and depressing
albeit needing to be presented. Delving into history with powerful
words, rythmic beats, truth and passion are what make these
authors brilliant masters and produce such profound works.
Thank you for bringing them to our consciousness as well as the
clarity of your expression...We are being warned but what
will it take to heed?....."this cannot continue indefinitely" praying
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I'd forgotten about this lovely Lady

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz2SeEzxMuE

and that flying dream.
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Depressing? I'll give you depressing! The hazards of post-modern academese.

Oh freddled gruntbuggly…” he began. Spasms wracked Ford’s body – this was worse than even he’d been prepared for.
“?…thy micturations are to me/As plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee.”
“Aaaaaaarggggghhhhh!” went Ford Prefect, wrenching his head back as lumps of pain thumped through it…
Groop I implore thee,” continued the merciless Vogon, “my foonting turlingdromes.
His voice was rising to a horrible pitch of impassioned stridency. “And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles,/ Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don’t!
…“Now, Earthlings…” whirred the Vogon…, “I present you with a simple choice! Either die in the vacuum of space, or…” he paused for melodramatic effect, “tell me how good you thought my poem was!”
…Ford was rasping for breath. He rolled his dusty tongue round his parched mouth and moaned.
Arthur said brightly, “Actually, I quite liked it…I thought that some of the metaphysical imagery was really particularly effective.”
…”Yes, do continue…” invited the Vogon.
“Oh…and, er…interesting rhythmic devices too,” continued Arthur, “which seemed to compound the…er…er…” he floundered.
Ford leaped to his rescue, hazarding “counterpoint the surrealism of the underlying metaphor of the…er…” He floundered too, but Arthur was ready again.
“…humanity of the…”
Vogonity,” Ford hissed at him.
“Ah yes, Vogonity – sorry – of the poet’s compassionate soul” – Arthur felt he was on a homestretch now – “which contrives through the medium of the verse structure to sublimate this, transcend that, and come to terms with the fundamental dichotomies of the other” – he was reaching a triumphant crescendo – “and one is left with a profound and vivid insight into…into…er” (which suddenly gave out on him). Ford leaped in with the coup de grace.
“Into whatever the poem was about!” he yelled.
[When the Vogon asks if they mean he writes poetry because he really just wants to be loved, they quickly agree. Wrong! He orders them thrown out into space, which upsets Ford because he still has a headache and doesn’t want to go to heaven with a headache. But as they’re being taken to the airlock, the Vogon has second thoughts.]
“Hmmm,” he said, “counterpoint the surrealism of the underlying metaphor…” He considered this for a moment, and then closed the book with a grim smile.
“Death’s too good for them,” he said.


"...counterpoint the surrealism of the underlying metaphor…"? Really, it's hard to disagree with the Vogon (Douglas Adams's alter-ego).
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The first ten million years were the worst," said Marvin, "and the second ten million years, they were the worst too. The third ten million years I didn't enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline.

biggrin

I'm working this up

"a fall of freezing fine frosty frigid floating flakes"

but I'm all alliterated out


The Planet is beautiful out of the window coated with ....

Slartibartfast has done a great job

...I might be able to shoehorn a foggy in there smile
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The beautiful Planet coated in a foggy fall of fantastic freezing fine frosty floating frigid faceted flakes


anybody care to follow
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Vogon poetry is of course the third worst in the Universe. The second worst is that of the Azgoths of Kria. During a recitation by their Poet Master Grunthos the Flatulent of his poem "Ode to a Small Lump of Green Putty I Found in My Armpit One Midsummer Morning" four of his audience members died of internal hemorrhaging, and the President of the Mid-Galactic Arts Nobbling Council survived by gnawing one of his own legs off. Grunthos is reported to have been "disappointed" by the poem's reception, and was about to embark on a reading of his twelve-book epic entitled "My Favorite Bathtime Gurgles" when his own major intestine, in a desperate attempt to save life and civilization, leaped straight up through his neck and throttled his brain. The very worst poetry of all perished along with its creator, Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings of Greenbridge, Essex, England, in the destruction of the planet Earth.

That's Douglas Adams' set-up for what was about to happen to his heroes, Arthur Dent and Ford Prefect, who were caught stowing away on a Vogon spaceship, summarily found guilty and sentenced to Poetry.

"Aaaaaaarggggghhhhhh! rolling eyes

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The first ten million years were the worst," said Marvin, "and the second ten million years, they were the worst too. The third ten million years I didn't enjoy at all. After that I went into a bit of a decline. biggrin

Funny folks find frolicking fun for fainthearted foolish tongue
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