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David Autumns
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Re: Poetry - just poetry ....

Love those latest poems

Just returned from airing my poems "in public" for the first time smile
I never did make it to the creative writing class as by Thursday Evening my brain cell is just scrambled egg due to my job

Tuesday is another matter and I finally made out the door to a meeting of the "Otley Poets". Turns out Otley is a hub of creativity with Turner and Chippendale being among it's former residents...and now a group of Poets (There must be a collective noun)

Reading a poem out loud is not the same as reading a poem in print.

One is ephemeral the other you can savour

Oh that needs it's u so you can savour it wink

Poetry is such a solitary activity - now maybe not so. Hope you can tell just how happy I am.

Nite

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Brave Dave has ventured out like the statue, 'Stepping Forward'
by Hanneke Beaumont - (vividly remembered)
Good for you - It's a wonderful experience.
Reading poetry aloud in public can be a daunting task - getting out of
your comfort zone isn't easy. Much like experienced actors who still get
stage fright.
Recitation can sometimes make the meaning of the poem much clearer
to the listener and that's a good thing.

I enjoy poetry readings by Tom O'Bedlam and Seamus Heaney.
Their voices have a calming effect on me.

Which brings to mind this poem by Pablo Neruda...

'Leaning Into The Afternoons'

Leaning into the afternoons I cast my sad nets
towards your oceanic eyes.

There in the highest blaze my solitude lengthens and flames,
its arms turning like a drowning man's.

I send out red signals across your absent eyes
that smell like the sea or the beach by a lighthouse.

You keep only darkness, my distant female,
from your regard sometimes the coast of dread emerges.

Leaning into the afternoons I fling my sad nets
to that sea that is thrashed by your oceanic eyes.

The birds of night peck at the first stars
that flash like my soul when I love you.

The night gallops on its shadowy mare
shedding blue tassels over the land.
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The Book of Nightmares
Part VI
The Dead Shall Be Raised Incorruptible
by Galway Kinnell


1
A piece of flesh gives off
smoke in the field --

carrion,
caput mortuum,
orts,
pelf,
fenks,
sordes,
gurry dumped from hospital trashcans.

Lieutenant!
This corpse will not stop burning!


2

"That you Captain? Sure,
sure I remember -- I still hear you
lecturing at me on the intercom, Keep your guns up, Burnsie!
and then screaming, Stop shooting, for crissake, Burnsie,
those are friendlies!
But crissake, Captain,
I'd already started, burst
after burst, little black pajamas jumping
and falling . . . and remember that pilot
who'd bailed out over the North,
how I shredded him down to catgut on his strings?
one of his slant eyes, a piece
of his smile, sail past me
every night right after the sleeping pill . . .

"It was only
that I loved the sound
of them, I guess I just loved
the feel of them sparkin' off my hands . . ."

3

On the television screen:

Do you have a body that sweats?
Sweat that has odor?
False teeth clanging into your breakfast?
Case of the dread?
Headache so steady it may outlive you?
Armpits sprouting hair?
Piles so huge you don't need a chair to sit at a table?

We shall not all sleep, but we shall be changed . . .

4

In the Twentieth Century of my trespass on earth,
having exterminated one billion heathens,
heretics, Jews, Moslems, witches, mystical seekers,
black men, Asians, and Christian brothers,
every one of them for his own good,

a whole continent of red men for living in community,
one billion species of animals for being sub-human,
and ready and eager to take on
the bloodthirsty creatures from the other planets,
I, Christian man, groan out this testament of my last will.

I give my blood fifty parts polystyrene,
twenty-five parts benzene, twenty-five parts good old gasoline,
to the last bomber pilot aloft, that there shall be one acre
in the dull world where the kissing flower may bloom,
which kisses you so long your bones explode under its lips.

My tongue
goes to the Secretary of the Dead
to tell the corpses, "I'm sorry, fellows,
the killing was just one of those things
difficult to pre-visualize."

My soul I leave to the bee
that he may sting it and die, my brain
to the fly, his back the hysterical green color of slime,
that he may suck on it and die, my flesh to the advertising man,
the anti-prostitute, who loathes human flesh for money.

I assign my crooked backbone
to the dice maker, to chop up into dice,
for casting lots as to who shall see his own blood
on his shirt front and who his brother's,
for the race isn't to the swift but to the crooked.

To the last man surviving on earth
I give my eyelids worn out by fear, to wear
in the absolute night of radiation and silence,
so that his eyes can't close, for regret
is like tears seeping through closed eyelids.

I give the emptiness my hand: the little finger picks no more noses,
slag clings to the black stick of the ring finger,
a bit of flame jets from the tip of the fuck-you finger,
the first finger accuses the heart, which has vanished,
on the thumb stump wisps of smoke ask a ride into the emptiness.

In the Twentieth Century of my nightmare
on earth, I swear on my chromium testicles
to this testament
and last will
of my iron will, my fear of love, my itch for money, and my madness.

5

In the ditch
snakes crawl cool paths
over the rotted thigh, the toe bones
twitch in the smell of burnt rubber,
the belly
opens like a poison nightflower,
the tongue has evaporated,
the nostril
hairs sprinkle themselves with yellowish-white dust,
the five flames at the end
of each hand have gone out, a mosquito
sips a last meal from this plate of serenity.

And the fly,
the last nightmare, hatches himself.

6

I ran
my neck broken I ran
holding my head up with both hands I ran
thinking the flames
the flames may burn the oboe
but listen buddy boy they can't touch the notes!


7

A few bones
lie about in the smoke of bones.

Membranes,
effigies pressed into grass,
mummy windings,
desquamations,
sags incinerated mattresses gave back to the world,
memories shocked into mirrors on whorehouse ceilings,
angel's wings
flagged down into the snows of yesteryear,

kneel
on the scorched earth
in the shapes of men and animals:

do not let this last hour pass,
do not remove this last, poison cup from our lips.


And a wind holding
the cries of love-making from all our nights and days
moves among the stones, hunting
for two twined skeletons to blow its last cry across.

Lieutenant!
This corpse will not stop burning!



The Book of Nightmares
Copyright 1971 by Galway Kinnell
Houghton Mifflin Company, Boston


I know of few poems that better express the horror, anger and despair caused by war than this one. Kinnell's unsurpassed range is displayed by the poem immediately following this one, "Part VII, Little Sleep's-Head Sprouting Hair in the Moonlight," a tender paean to his tiny daughter, Maud.
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Re: Poetry - just poetry ....

bjb you can pick 'em

real physical waves of emotion
you rock back and then lean into the (afternoon) next wave
and finally
calm washes over

who knew.......simply words
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Definitely the stuff of nightmares, William!
Descriptive enough to cause sleepless nights.
In a world already in turmoil, thoughts brought forth
augur ill for the future. :/

Thanks, Dave - "simply words" can turn into darkness as William has
shown above or be as comfortable as a warm blanket - depending on the
writers state of mind.
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hmmmm...OK, OK, how to rescue perception of newbie me by others, lemme think, no more originals for god's sake (Dave you're a braver man than I, but then I'm in LA where if you're not trendy you don't exist, and I so don't exist, Cogito ergo sum notwithstanding), nothing dark, not nightmarish even though we at least didn't have to live the reality of so many people's lives and deaths, um, wow this is hard, not even a teensy li'l encephalitic nightmare, I have so many...? how about a nightmare-ette? ... shoots! Oh chaiwait chaiwait! OK I got it - OK, like when my wife and I got married? on the beach on Kaua`i, full moon rising out of the ocean, sun going down behind us in a still, hot, volcano-red sky, our printed program was full of poems, my vow was one by Kinnell that I could hardly get through I choked up so much (The door closes on pain and confusion.), man nothin' like tears and sweat in your eyes when you're trying to read your wedding vow, but the lead poem in the program was this...


Prayer for a Marriage
by Steve Scafidi

When we are old one night and the moon
arcs over the house like an antique
China saucer and the teacup sun

follows somewhere far behind
I hope the stars deepen to a shine
so bright you could read by it

if you liked and the sadnesses
we will have known go away
for awhile -- in this hour or two

before sleep -- and that we kiss
standing in the kitchen not fighting
gravity so much as embodying

its sweet force, and I hope we kiss
like we do today knowing so much
good is said in this primitive tongue

from the wild first surprising ones
to the lower dizzy ten thousand
infinitely slower ones -- and I hope

while we stand there in the kitchen
making tea and kissing, the whistle
of the teapot wakes the neighbors.


Sparks from a Nine-Pound Hammer
Steve Scafidi
Louisiana State University Press, 2001
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William - Be assured you DO exist even living in LA biggrin
I see an intelligent, romantic, humorous man and my comment
certainly wasn't meant to put you off. I hope to see many more
contributions to expand our horizons. So there you have it - got it?

[btw - Prayers for a Marriage was a perfect wedding poem - hope you're
still enjoying your tea]
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The Room
by Galway Kinnell


The door closes on pain and confusion.
The candle flame wavers from side to side
as though trying to break itself in half
to color the shadows too with living light.
The andante movement plays over and over
its many triplets, like farm dogs yapping
at a melody made of the gratification-cries
of cocks. I will not stay long.
Nothing in experience led me to imagine
having. Having is destroying, said
my version of the vow of impoverishment.
But here, in this brief, waxen light,
I have, and nothing is destroyed. The flute
that guttered those owl's notes into the waste hours
of childhood joins with the piano
and they play, Being is having. Having
may be nothing but the grace of the shell
moving without hesitation, with lively pride,
down the stubborn river of woe. At the far end,
a door no one dares open begins opening.
To go through it will awaken such regret
as only closing it behind can obliterate.
The candle flame's staggering makes the room
wobble and shift -- matter itself, laughing.
I can't come back. I won't change.
I have the usual capacity for wanting
what may not even exist. Don't worry.
That is the dew wetting my face.
You see? Nothing that enters the room
can have only its own meaning ever again.


When One Has Lived a Long Time Alone
Copyright 1990 by Galway Kinnell
Alfred A. Knopf, New York
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Kinnell certainly doesn't mince words. The Salvador Dali of the poetry world.
The verse is intense and direct.
His words linger in the mind and each reading reveals more.
But still --- rather dark ...


Wait, for now.
Distrust everything, if you have to.
But trust the hours. Haven't they
carried you everywhere, up to now?
Personal events will become interesting again.
Hair will become interesting.
Pain will become interesting.
Buds that open out of season will become lovely again.
Second-hand gloves will become lovely again,
their memories are what give them
the need for other hands. And the desolation
of lovers is the same: that enormous emptiness
carved out of such tiny beings as we are
asks to be filled; the need
for the new love is faithfulness to the old.

Wait.
Don't go too early.
You're tired. But everyone's tired.
But no one is tired enough.
Only wait a while and listen.
Music of hair,
Music of pain,
music of looms weaving all our loves again.
Be there to hear it, it will be the only time,
most of all to hear,
the flute of your whole existence,
rehearsed by the sorrows, play itself into total exhaustion.

-Galway Kinnell

Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien
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Patch of Old Snow
R. Frost


There's a patch of old snow in a corner
That I should have guessed
Was a blow-away paper the rain
Had brought to rest.

It is speckled with grime as if
Small print overspread it,
The news of a day I've forgotten --
If I ever read it.
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