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Re: New machine for the project...Sandy Bridge

what is a hs?
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Re: New machine for the project...Sandy Bridge

Looking at this line,

Those stock HS just aren't up to handling the heat loads when you OC these chips.

contextually, HeatSink ;>)
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Re: New machine for the project...Sandy Bridge

Intel Identifies Cougar Point Chipset Error, Halts Shipments.1:00 PM - January 31, 2011 by Chris Angelini - source: Tom's Hardware US .
Early Monday, Intel identified a problem with its Cougar Point chipset family affecting SATA 3 Gb/s ports, specifically. Though it's only expected to affect 5% of systems over three years, enthusiasts pushing lots of data should wait for a fixed platform.

If you were as excited about Intel’s Sandy Bridge processors as we were earlier this month when they soft-launched, then today’s news will come as a shock (especially if you already bought one of the second-gen Core i5 or Core i7 desktop processors available online; Core i3 still isn’t selling).

In essence, Intel identified a problem with the SATA 3 Gb/s on its Cougar Point chipsets last week. SATA 6 Gb/s ports are unaffected. The issue is hardware-related and requires a silicon-based fix at the metal layer, which of course means that all of the currently-shipping P67- and H67 –based motherboards are affected. It’s severe enough, especially for the enthusiast community most likely to be populating multiple SATA ports and pushing heavier I/O workloads that we’d want to recommend holding off on Sandy Bridge-based builds until boards with a fixed version of the chipset ships out. This will happen within “weeks,” according to Intel, as motherboard vendors will start getting updated core logic in late February for a full volume recovery in April.


This is an excerpt you can read on Toms Hardware website.
The cost for Intel of this bug seems to be around 700 Million $US.
For Intel this is a small financial glitch. Imagewise it is a different story.
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Re: New machine for the project...Sandy Bridge

Do all the boards that have already shipped get recalled and replaced?
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It's not a FULL recall, http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/intel-init...-chipset-recall-20110131/

Only $700M set aside to deal with the repair costs.
It's worth noting that the Intel motherboard chipset problem is only limited to controller ports 2, 3, 4 and 5 and thus only effects SATA3, not SATA6. Basically it means the board will fail early, due to an over voltage. Anand explains it well here. If you use a better SATA drive you probably won't be affected.
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Re: New machine for the project...Sandy Bridge

It's not a FULL recall


I believe it involves every H67/P67 Chipset which is every Sandy Bridge Motherboard.


If you use a better SATA drive you probably won't be affected.


Anybody that has an Sandy Bridge motherboard will probably want to have their board fixed/replaced. Intel is not calling it a recall but I believe every board shipped has the issue.

It's hard to say how this will play out. It will depend on how you got your system or motherboard.
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It does involve every H67/P67 chipset, and Intell are recalling chipsets in motherboards that are currently shipping, but I don't know the all the specifics. Will it effect the chipset no matter what? ie if you use a SATA6 solid state drive, or will the chipset just fail if you use SATA3. My guess is that some OEM systems will ship with SATA6 drives, and it will not cause damage beyond the SATA3 ports, so if you are an OEM SATA6 user the recall might arguably (by Intel lawyers) be unnecessary. Well, that's perhaps what Intel want; to limit the recals until the warranty expires.

The irony is that Intel fought so hard to monopolise the chipset market, driving competitors away through patents and lawyers. What a backfire. If you think back to before i7, Intel was just about the lowest of the low when it came to chipsets. Cheap, limited and buggy. This time they not only messed up with the H67/P67 onboard video controller but they messed SATA up too. I'm not sure if this would mess with PCIE devices too, but it might. Would be good to know because some people might be able to use a PCIE to SATA RAID card. I wonder how long Intel knew about this before letting on? The bad news is that the new chipsets will not start rolling out until around April. The good news is that the problem takes time to show itself and if you are worried about buying a board now you could always get a board with a bespoke SATA controller such as one from Marvell; if you only intend to use SATA6 and a couple of SATA 3 drives over Marvell's SATA controller.
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Re: New machine for the project...Sandy Bridge

Sandy Bridge laptop just delivered yesterday, up and crunching... hostname "erratum" nerd
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Glad I didn't jump quick on SB. Am hoping the xeon version comes out earlier that what they posted. I want a dual processor version to crunch with. Just hope the price is not to steep.
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Re: New machine for the project...Sandy Bridge

It's always a good idea to avoid spanking new technology, in case it slaps you laughing
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