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NVIDIA Support and Multicore....

I am absolutely clueless when it comes to this stuff, but I know my Multi Core processor Intel i7 975 was running at full steam ahead when I was connected to Milkyway@home and now that im on this network its just puttering along comfortably. Milkyway had the support for graphics processing or whatever its called with NVIDIA graphics cards ... as well.

My processor does seem to be running at 100% but the machine itself is not working half as hard without the NVIDIA support.

Will this system have the graphics accelleration thing working at some point in the near future so machines like mine can really crank out some work?
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Re: NVIDIA Support and Multicore....

Anytime GPU comes up, it causes me to find nightly hairloss has resumed. What is "near future"? There are plans that have been approved for implementation... yes WCG has a hierarchical structure and a sponsor that provides millions each year to be a free host of research of others. When any of that comes to be I have given up on to want to know, the last saying that HCC is still the best candidate for first roll-out (having an quite expanded library to work through). See it when I see it, till then there are several GPU focused projects running off BOINC, but not following which ones are more earthly related... medical/biological/environmental.
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Re: NVIDIA Support and Multicore....

Forgive me, but 90% of your response I do not understand. It may be the language barrier. All I can surmise from what you wrote is that you're annoyed about something, but I can't figure out what exactly.

Isn't the issue behind providing GPU's just a programming resource issue? Finding someone who can enable the functionality once and for all for this project, and then making all the work units GPU's ?

I can't imagine that Milkway at Home has that much higher of an overall "budget" than this one does, given the insanely vast reach this project has. And by the way - ever check the stats? This one has about 10x as many participants too.

So why no GPU's?

What is "near future"?

You tell me? I have no idea. If its up to me, tomorrow would be super! Given that other significantly smaller (and far less important) projects have GPU's, shouldn't this one?
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Re: NVIDIA Support and Multicore....

Nevermind, I just found the other 900 threads where everyone is begging for GPU's and then a bunch of forum moderators telling them to be quiet and stop asking for it because its never going to come. LOL ... nice ... well in any case my cpu is about to go putter along some more horribly, ghastly slow processing units right now. bye...
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Re: NVIDIA Support and Multicore....

Hi HT

First, Sek had no intention to offend. Sometimes things don't translate well.
Second, It is a sore subject here. If you would take the time to do a simple fourm search on "GPU", there are a bazillion threads on this subject and you will have enough reading material to last the rest of the day.
Last, WCG hosts projects, they do not create projects. When they have a GPU project to host they will host it. Most projects in the DC world are not structured to be supported with a GPU. It is not as easy as you may think.

Welcome to the forum and thanks for crunching... peace

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Re: NVIDIA Support and Multicore....

Last, WCG hosts projects, they do not create projects. When they have a GPU project to host they will host it.


Is that true? I have always had the impression that it was WCG that was not ready to host such a project.
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Re: NVIDIA Support and Multicore....

HT...You should also keep in mind a few other factors.
1. Though WCG has these Super slow crunching work units you refer, they run quite well alongside other projects like Milkyway that will use that GPU.
2. If you research GPU projects, you will find that the GPU's only really are good for processing certain types of data. Therefore not appropriate for all projects.
3. You mention that the WCG has a significant amount of users compared to others, but you also need to step back and realize the mass numbers of people with computers and an extremely large portion of crunchers don't have GPU capable video cards. So, just like the rest of the computer world who chooses Windows over the rest, CPU's have a mass majority of the market and therefore should get the most attention.
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Re: NVIDIA Support and Multicore....

Regarding the GPU issue I would add the problem of power consumption.
Adding a GTX480 running full power probably adds another 500 watts to your system.
500 watts that's 2 X i7 980X consumption when they run at 4 Ghz.
In short a system with a i7 980X CPU and a GTX480 GPU will burn 750 watts or three times of the amount of the lone CPU system.
This means that we must have a project that in any case does produce at least four times more valid units per day on a GPU based system to be acceptable.
It has been said that a GPU would increase crunching rates by a factor of at least 10 and up to a 100. If all this is true indeed then it does make sense to invest into GPU crunching as the energy consumption for a similar amount of work would be much lower OR for the same power consumption you would get much more results. In any case the GPU seems to me to be a greener solution. biggrin
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Re: NVIDIA Support and Multicore....

Maybe they will add that to the CEP3 project...LOL
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Re: NVIDIA Support and Multicore....

This means that we must have a project that in any case does produce at least four times more valid units per day on a GPU based system to be acceptable.
It has been said that a GPU would increase crunching rates by a factor of at least 10 and up to a 100. If all this is true indeed then it does make sense to invest into GPU crunching as the energy consumption for a similar amount of work would be much lower OR for the same power consumption you would get much more results


It depends on the problem. I believe it's a waste of time/money if the same problem can be solved 50X faster with a GPU.

I don't want GPU Computing just for the fun of it. If there are problems it can solve more efficiently then do it.
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