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Re: "New & Improved" BOINC 6.11.x Discussion

Mine was a bad translation into English by a poster at Rechrenkraft. Word order is important in English. blushing

I finished looking at it yesterday. I could not find anything that helps me, a mere mortal cruncher, to do a better job. Most changes look like change just for the sake of change or for the sake of giant egos. I can say that recent releases are doing a better job seperating GPU crunching from CPU crunching. I also checked around some of the message boards and almost no one seems to like this release. The major complaints seems to be over the possible abuse of "notices" as you indicated.

Anyway ... I fell back to 6.10.58 and plan to stay there until there is some real need to make a change.

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Re: "New & Improved" BOINC 6.11.x Discussion

OK, on the occasion thought up 2 new acronyms for our boards, both easily figured out:

SAFI design: Set And Forget It

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SAGA design: Needs no explanation.. Set And Get Annoyed.

Use sparingly :P
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Re: "New & Improved" BOINC 6.11.x Discussion

New & Improved? Berkeley seem to be in a rush to promote 6.12.6, but the new spiffy looking Simple View is buggy still, and that's only the surface... some buttons disappear or do not function ;?)



Screenshot on W7-64 with Aero on. The messages button is really giving access to the Notices view. Off late, my cache is not being backfilled timely even though the TTC total per BOINCtasks is substantially less than the buffer setting. No deferral tickers running, all parms nominal. Be warned!
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Re: "New & Improved" BOINC 6.12.x Discussion

Anyone running 6.12.8?

Comments?

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Re: "New & Improved" BOINC 6.12.x Discussion

Not fit for production: e.g. the additional buffer is multiplied it seems by the number of cores. On my duo, a 2.5 day cache gives 5 days work, a 2 day cache 4 days. This on 6.12.8 and 6.12.10. Reverting to 6.12.6 normalizes. Anyone testing with HCC selected as project and a cache setting of around 3.5 days and up will have a HP state or with 1 day and above after a while no more repair jobs or A Type ;>)

Also it seems the zero_debt flag is broken. Wanted to zero the LTD, but on client restart the work_fetch_debug still reports the (inflated) NEGATIVE values I'm having on WCG.

Just go to the check-in list (think you know where to find it)... and quite unsure everything in alterations gets entered there.

And something new I noticed: Before, the BM would not launch the core service if stopped (even if having rights). Now, a new app alert appears with W7 about a "boincsvcctrl.exe" needing permission to be launched (unsigned app). Could be some security software will start barfing when that newee arrives at members... here it alerted same way as were we back at the beginning of the Vista days.

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Re: "New & Improved" BOINC 6.12.x Discussion

welcome back sek.. I think I will stay with the 6.10.58 fore I would be lost at how to correct all that stuff in 6.12
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Re: "New & Improved" BOINC 6.12.x Discussion

txyankee, good idea; the Boinc Alpha/Beta is really just for testing, not set and run crunching.
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Re: "New & Improved" BOINC 6.12.x Discussion

heck I can't even get ubuntu and 67.10.58 to work right Or any other boinc version on that system
tryied to add the lines needed in the cc config xml file but It seems as though I do not have the rights to that file so I give up.. only on win 7 64bit now..
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Re: "New & Improved" BOINC 6.12.x Discussion

Thanks for the comments. I have 6.12.8 on my local host which does limited crunching and I still have to give it a thumbs down. I have Milkyway CPU/GPU on it and it does have problems handling LTD. Milkyway CPU has some very long running wu's (N-body simulation) and it gives me much more than a 0.01 cashe. On a humerous note, I got my first "Notice" ... a ballon poped up with a 'lost connection with host" message. laughing Since using BoincTasks, I rarely look at BOINC on the individual machines so some of the other "new features" are less irritating. I honestly can't understand where they are going in the future. coffee

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EDIT: BTW does anyone know how to delete "notices"?
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Re: "New & Improved" BOINC 6.12.x Discussion

Today found the first WCG submitted messages in the new Notices tab of BOINC Manager. This signals that WCG is probably working to elevating the server side state of the software. Whilst this is progress, I'm not happy with the way the Notices are presented in the Alpha client, seemingly already pegged for general public release (but likely skipped by WCG):

1. The notices cannot be copied to pass to friends
2. More grave, the links to the full news items are obscured/invisible, just the mouse pointer changing to a hand to say it's an active field.

Made it known in the testers mail list proposing to show it in the BM status bar same as BOINCTasks is already doing (allowing copying too ;>), so we'll see if a new alpha test round will be scheduled.

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