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David Autumns
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Klik I can show you a wiggly line showing you that we have lived through a 1.2 degree C rise and fall over the last 5 years ...with no ill effects considering we've been doing it for a very long time ....

Politician's in a room cannot affect the Climate. Even if Man was not present on the Planet it would still change as it does .... it's the Sun that drives the Climate not the interests of Politicians.

But tomorrow will decide if we can afford to heat our homes, travel and have the reliable power supplies that we have come to expect ... or not.

tomorrow will decide if we are frogmarched to back Nuclear Power ..or not

This is what is being discussed in Paris and despite democracy we are powerless to shape the outcome.


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well, yes Earth heats up & heats down 'cause of the Sun cycles...we know that!

but, ozone layer hasn't changed...so we're still producing too much gases!
source: http://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/

& yes, politicians can't change climate...but new rules for using traffic or efficiency would help!
today I was coming to work...as always, I'm taking a train from center of the town to factory...it's just the most convenient way, as I live in a city center...while a lines & lines of cars were waiting for a green light...like a sea of them on every bigger street crossing!

to change habits, people need to change their habits...& those are the hardest to change! wink

& there's nothing wrong with Nuclear power...it just has to be regulated...Zagreb (where I live in) is very near NP Krško...didn't have problems from it till now...& I think it's over 25y old! wink
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europ...is-not-safe-a6765546.html

Any World Leader who thinks he or she can control our climate to 1.5C or 2C or any figure above or below is ....insane

Ask Canute


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NOAA weather satellite mysteriously destroyed after agency's climate data manipulation exposed

http://www.naturalnews.com/052266_weather_sat...e_data_world_agendas.html

NaturalNews) Propagandists working at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration of the United States (NOAA), were caught manipulating temperature records in 2015 to make it seem that the Earth's surface and ocean temperatures have been rising for the past 15 years.
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The World Governments have decided they have control over how warm or cold our Planet is. They have decided that the control tap is the content of Carbon Dioxide in the air. Currently this stands at 0.04%. They want to reduce this so [in their words] they can prevent the Planet warming by 2C but significant efforts to reduce the CO2 percentage will be taken in the hope that they can keep the increase below 1.5C

Note the CO2 in the atmosphere is the source of Carbohydrates and Proteins that goes to make up every living thing on this planet both plant and animal via the wonder that is photosynthesis.

$100,000,000,000 is now going to be transferred between Countries for Climate mitigation annually. Yep annually.

To curb your being able to see in the dark, keep warm and being able to travel - so as to turn the thermostat down on the planet [they claim] - your access to fossil fuels will be slowly be put out of your reach either financially or literally.

So how are you going to know if these actions are having any measurable effect on the Planet?

You won't

Herein lies it's genius

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."


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Earth is the spot below the lighter blue Neptune. 4th on the left on the bottom row of Planets

But Governments of the World now claim they can limit any warming of our Planet to inside of 2C

I suspect they really don't have a say biggrin
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The global pact is being hammered out by the COP (the Conference of the Parties) in Paris. The stated goal is to limit human CO2 emissions in order to stop global warming. But perhaps they should take a break. You know, pause. After all, the Earth has.

Global warming stopped 18 years ago—they call it ‘the pause.’

http://www.israpundit.org/archives/63611503
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europ...is-not-safe-a6765546.html

Any World Leader who thinks he or she can control our climate to 1.5C or 2C or any figure above or below is ....insane

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any head of state can regulate laws...& bind the laws in GHE of CO2...

so yes, he/she can...but not without not only looking at transport...'cause transport is sthg like 5%, while meat production is about 30%!
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