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David Autumns
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Humberto has just struggled into Hurricane territory
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Harriscott
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2013 has also blown the theory of exposed Sea at the pole absorbing more heat causing a warmer sea which ... Thanks for the reminder! That particular "tipping point" was all the rage last summer, as a web search for "arctic sea ice tipping point" shows. |
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David Autumns
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No worries
----------------------------------------Here's how Humberto has been defined a hurricane THE CLOUD PATTERN HAS BECOME A LITTLE BETTER ORGANIZED THIS AFTERNOON IN BOTH MICROWAVE AND CONVENTIONAL IMAGERY. THE EYE...ALTHOUGH RAGGED AND INTERMITTENT...IS EMBEDDED WITHIN A SMALL CENTRAL DENSE OVERCAST WITH CONVECTIVE BANDS WRAPPING AROUND THE CENTER PRIMARILY IN THE SOUTHERN SEMICIRCLE. SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES ARE UNANIMOUSLY 4.5 ON THE DVORAK SCALE AND ON THIS BASIS...THE INITIAL INTENSITY HAS BEEN ADJUSTED UPWARD TO 75 KNOTS. HUMBERTO HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO STRENGTHEN A LITTLE MORE BEFORE IT REACHES COOLER WATERS AND INCREASING SHEAR IN ABOUT A DAY. AFTER THAT TIME...GRADUAL WEAKENING SHOULD BEGIN. 4.5 on the Dvorak scale  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_technique Humberto "measured" as a Hurricane on this day of all days ? |
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David Autumns
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Today there is as near as makes no difference 50% more sea ice at the north pole than last year at this time
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David Autumns
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What have we learned while watching the North Pole melt and then reform each year?
----------------------------------------It's a dynamic place unlike the South Pole as the Ice forms on the Sea. Year by year there are large positive and negative shifts in coverage and these are in the most part due to the weather. If a storm brews early in the year shortly after maxima this has the effect of cracking the ice on the water which in turn, like last year, turns the North Poles Sea Ice into a giant Slush Puppie (Other frozen flavoured beverages are available) which accelerates the melt (More exposed ice surface to warming temperature - smaller pieces easier to wash away) This year just such a storm passed over the Russian facing side of the North Pole and it is here that the meltout has been greatest. We don't control the size of the North Pole melt year by year, the Weather does. The longer we observe it the more we appreciate it is not static environment where every year the ice reaches this spot and now look how far away it is. No it's much more variable and subject to the vagaries of the weather. What we do know is that every year it returns to almost the same level at maxima in March and given the tilt of the Earth with respect to the Sun .... it always will do. Dave [Edit 5 times, last edit by David Autumns at Sep 15, 2013 10:52:32 AM] |
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David Autumns
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To demonstrate just how mad extrapolation can be
----------------------------------------If the current rate of increase of Sea Ice at minima continues the Planet would be engulfed in ice in less than 12 years 4,809,288 km2 2013 7,212,874 km2 2014 10,817,726 km2 2015 16,224,210 km2 2016 24,332,749 km2 2017 36,493,774 km2 2018 54,732,638 km2 2019 82,086,924 km2 2020 123,112,339 km2 2021 184,641,442 km2 2022 276,921,569 km2 2023 415,321,471 km2 2024 622,890,897 km2 2025 Planet Earth 510,072,000 km2 The Horror  [Edit 2 times, last edit by David Autumns at Sep 13, 2013 12:44:07 PM] |
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David Autumns
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-24063286
----------------------------------------The thing about the Sellafield plant is that it used to be called Windscale http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windscale_fire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sellafield You're not going to get a cluster if you liberally sprinkle the whole population |
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David Autumns
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With 2 days of regrowth at the North Pole I'm calling it
---------------------------------------- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7139797.stm FALSE : There's 743,549 km2 more Sea Ice at the Pole than in 2007 (almost a Zambia more) There was 4,809,288 km2 at minima this year using JAXA's revised system (Over 5 million in old money) 1.52 times the size of India  http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/cgi-bin/seaice-monitor.cgi?lang=e So that's "Arctic summers ice-free by 2013" = FALSE Dave |
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David Autumns
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Still looking for the start of that 6C increase in Global Temperature over the next 87 Years
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GeraldRube
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UK Daily Mail reporter David Rose faces threats and intimidation after writing articles challenging the global warming narrative
----------------------------------------But the article and its author also became the object of extraordinarily vitriolic attacks from climate commentators who refuse to accept any evidence that may unsettle their view of the science. A Guardian website article claimed our report was ‘delusional’ because it ignored what it called an ‘Arctic death spiral’ caused by global warming. Beneath this, some readers who made comments had their posts removed by the site moderator, because they ‘didn’t abide by our community standards’. But among those that still remain on the site is one which likens the work of David Rose – who is Jewish – to Adolf Hitler’s anti-Semitic rant Mein Kampf. Another suggests it would be reasonable if he were to be murdered by his own children. A comment under the name DavidFTA read: ‘In a few years, self-defence is going to be made a valid defence for parricide [killing one’s own father], so Rose’s children will have this article to present in their defence at the trial.’ http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/09/15/uk-dai...Depot+%28Climate+Depot%29  |
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