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Former Member
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Yes, the time has come to do the first informal testing. No implying anything at all on CUDA/OpenCL, just looking how well it runs for WCG, 6.10.4 just out, some internal builds to learn about the code to include the assurance that it is and remains 'save'. Anyone who's running this or future 6.10 releases is invited to report on issues, of course the focus being the CPU part works. [snip] Whoever manages the RH/fedora repositories has added BOINC 6.10.25-1.r20004svn to the Updates repo. Its build date was 02 JAN, so apparently someone thinks it's semi-stable. I don't have the Testing or Updates-Testing repos enabled, ergo I have no idea what they're offering there; the latest, I presume. I will probably let my fedora 11 AMD quad (ATI) get it tomorrow. Will wait on the other linux boxes (F11 pentium quad/NVIDIA, F12 AMD dual/NVIDIA) until I see how (or if) that's working out. |
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Sekerob
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 My experience with 6.10.25 alpha is substantially more stable in the scheduling department than the 6.10.18 on the Berkeley Official DL page.
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Hypernova
Master Cruncher Audaces Fortuna Juvat ! Vaud - Switzerland Joined: Dec 16, 2008 Post Count: 1908 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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I went on Boinc site to see what do they have and there is a test version displayed 6.10.29 for Windows 7 64bit.
----------------------------------------I do not see any 6.10.25 or 6.10.25-1 Alpha, or Beta. What is the link for Alpha and Beta Versions? All my devices use the recommended 6.10.18. Very stable no problem. Has anyone got some feedback about 6.10.29?   |
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Sekerob
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Yes, I've got the GPU thoroughly disabled in BOINC but with
----------------------------------------- The local prefs GUI indicating the GPU is not allowed to run when computer is in use (box not ticked) - The cc_config.xml has the explicit line included in the <options> section <no_gpus>1</no_gpus> - The CPU is allowed to be used 24/7, computer in use or not. But, these lines have been starting to show frequently since when upgrading this quad from 6.10.24 to 6.10.29: 20/01/2010 17:25:03 [cpu_sched] suspending GPU activity 20/01/2010 17:50:08 [cpu_sched] resuming GPU activity 20/01/2010 21:39:18 [cpu_sched] suspending GPU activity And it's not attached to any project I know that runs GPU's, i.e. there are no jobs that could use a GPU. Any ideas. Unless there are client/server contacts that are unrecorded in the message log and WCG telling such clients to back off for 7 days absent GPU work, no clue why it's happening now and from where this is being agitated.
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Ingleside
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I went on Boinc site to see what do they have and there is a test version displayed 6.10.29 for Windows 7 64bit. I do not see any 6.10.25 or 6.10.25-1 Alpha, or Beta. What is the link for Alpha and Beta Versions? Often the current alpha-build is the same as the listed development-build, but ocassionally the alpha-build isn't listed on the download-all-page and is only available directly in the download-directory. But, in the download-dir ocassionally also pre-alpha-builds shows-up, these aren't intended even for alpha-testers to use, but is intended often for a single project testing-out some new functionality or something. Now, these builds generally has the odd-middle-number, but still... All my devices use the recommended 6.10.18. Very stable no problem. Has anyone got some feedback about 6.10.29? Using the recommended BOINC-client is most of the time the best choise, but ocassionally some specific bugs is present that is fixed in later not-yet-recommended builds. Also, even it's a later-build in a release-serie, the often scenario is a fairly "good" build, some more or less "bad" ones, sometimes with really nasty bugs, for so a "good" build again... Specifically for v6.10.29, it seems it continues having problems handling "high priority" correctly, there you can have many tasks with 5 minutes or something remaining to do, but BOINC-client chooses to start a completely new task in same project instead... Also, there's been reports about run-away work-requests. So, I'm not sure if v6.10.29 is really an improvement over v6.10.18 at this point, except for anyone running Aqua there SMP-scheduling in v6.10.18 doesn't work correctly. Atleast from the current look of things, more builds should follow later on, if it's possible to track-down and fix the scheduling-bugs...  "I make so many mistakes. But then just think of all the mistakes I don't make, although I might." |
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pirogue
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But, these lines have been starting to show frequently since when upgrading this quad from 6.10.24 to 6.10.29: 20/01/2010 17:25:03 [cpu_sched] suspending GPU activity 20/01/2010 17:50:08 [cpu_sched] resuming GPU activity 20/01/2010 21:39:18 [cpu_sched] suspending GPU activity And it's not attached to any project I know that runs GPU's, i.e. there are no jobs that could use a GPU. I don't know what OS you're running, but I see those messages on the Windows machines when I check on them using remote desktop. It's because of the way the graphics driver gets hijacked. |
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Sekerob
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Problems with client persist through 6.10.29, it sometimes thinking that several cores on a multi core device are idle and starts fetching work from a project that has none in queue, though it's not owed scheduled CPU time... as a rule to keep all cores busy. This happened again yesterday, whilst all 4 cores were busy:
----------------------------------------31/01/2010 18:33:46 boincsimap [sched_op_debug] Starting scheduler request 31/01/2010 18:33:46 boincsimap Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. 31/01/2010 18:33:46 boincsimap Requesting new tasks 31/01/2010 18:33:46 boincsimap [sched_op_debug] CPU work request: 2323.75 seconds; 4.00 idle CPUs So it start pulling work from SIMAP though it was not owed time and nabbed all 4 cores away from WCG. @piroque, thanks for that pointer on the useless GPU scheduling. It does actually seem to relate to actual use. I have unticked the box as if GPU crunching is allowed during use it wont occur, but it's dumb to say the least since all options to allow GPU use at all have been disabled with flags in the cc_config.xml... so now just one line: 01/02/2010 12:12:30 [cpu_sched] resuming GPU activity 
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Sekerob
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No idea what the big secret is and not having the user-idle, automatic client pausing to allow computer-hibernation when not at the computer, but I did put a request in on the developers forum. Please feel free to head on over there and vote in: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=5463#31040
----------------------------------------Basically, think all none-project specific options should be accessible through the BOINC Manager interface and this one, several later added web-options having found their way across such as the GPU setting.
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Sekerob
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Finally, after several years, the multi-moans have converted to action:
----------------------------------------David 1 Mar 2010 1485 - client: if suspending apps because of CPU benchmarks, 1486 leave them in memory Was not good with LAIM off and Type A DDDT-2 jobs running having 2 hour apart and more checkpoints. edit: and this one, well not sure it was/is still a 6.10.36 issue?
Can't say I've seen it with the test client, but then, am running with smaller cache presently.
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Former Member
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edit: and this one, well not sure it was/is still a 6.10.36 issue?
Can't say I've seen it with the test client, but then, am running with smaller cache presently. I believe it is, as, according to this post by Ageless: David added a fix ([20805]), which will go into 6.10.37 But it seems now that fix will be done in 6.10.38 instead: Only fix is "Properly display project descriptions on Windows XP machines in the attach to project wizard. " All other fixes will come in 6.10.38 which needs to be tested by the Alpha team first. |
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