stats are running now???
I did not see any announcement.

At the risk of sounding like an ascii ... this is so typical WCG ... treat crunchers like mushroom :-(

Let's guess at what is going on (surely I won't make something up that is worse than what is really going on cause it has to be real deep kimchi if they need to keep it a secret right???)

... the time typically gets screwed up during upgrades ... so I will make the assumption (yes, an assumption) they did make an update that they did not think required bringing the server(s) down and therefore did not need an announcement. BUT it did screw up the time (yet again) which I think is probably what screwed up the team stats. Perhaps they are now trying to fix is after three days without taking anything down and kicking off a stats run at a very peculiar time. Any takers on a bet it does not fix the times and stats issue?

Why can't they just talk to us?

I can almost guarantee they have not been working three days straight on this and even if they have bee, then taking 1 minute to splash us an update once a day should not be too much to ask. I will also bet that right after this incident we will have a higher than usual number of posts by techs in general for a few days but then it will be back to *normal* again. I really do like WCG and am certain everyone is working hard but I just think that dropping us a line now and then when things are not working peoperly would be nice.

I strongly suspect that the WCG admins and techs are first off scattered across most of North America and not all in the same physical location. Secondly, I'll wager that they are responsible for the WCG data, processes and such that are specific to WCG. The actual server management (OS, software upgrades and such) are handled by a different group that quite likely is in a totally different part of the world that may not even be on a time zone remotely near that of the WCG folks. The WCG folks probably design and code changes to the website, work with the outside project folks on the science stuff and develop the changes to the back end WCG processes. All of that probably has to be handed off to this other group to actually install it on the servers. The WCG folks probably can coordinate things with this other group but I doubt they have much of any real control over them. They are probably just as frustrated as we are. As for updating us, that would depend on them being kept updated by this server management group which it most likely not a sure thing for them either. Sounds crazy? This is pretty common in the large IT companies.

Sorry JP, that is incorrect. It is normal to understand that if the WCG stats have now been updated, 3rd party Boinc websites like the one we use (like Free-DC, will keep updating throughout the day/night). If you notice, the stats at Free-DC (at this very time) show the same stats as yesterday's and thus, it is normal. Stats sorted by "Yesterday" is the correct way to show the updated stats to 'jive' with the WCG.

I am guessing that "Today" at this very moment (at Free-DC stats,may be correct). It will soon be back to normal for all 3rd party 'Boinc websites. Yet another reason to "synch' everything to Boinc points as I have suggested for eons.

It will soon be fine (the recent updates by WCG to be updated by aforementioned Boinc websites.

Messed up again ... says it ran but no changes from the mid day run are apparent.