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Surge strategy

Has anyone attemtped to organize an all out attack on finishing a project? My measly one computer is completely dedicated to HFCC, but I would be willing to have it completely dedicated to CEP for a while if the resources being used for CEP would be directed at HFCC once CEP was completed. I picked CEP because if all the resources being used for HFCC were aimed at CEP, that project should be completed fairly quickly.
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Re: Surge strategy

The only focus on specific project targets that I saw in WCG are the team challenges, which could be ever renewed and ever focused on a specific project target, and could cover many aspects.

Many teams dedicates time to participate in this challenges, and many team members follow the team idea or the team captaing convocation to participate in the challenges...

Anyway, your coment appear be a good approach to put strong focus on specific projects targets to acelerate it and to be finished as soon as possible. good luck peace coffee
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Re: Surge strategy

This won't work, annonymous. World Community Grid adjust the work balance so that no project gets neglected.

Feel free to concentrate on the project that is closest to your own interests.

The only way to complete work faster is to add more computing power to World Community Grid, with faster computers and more members.
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Re: Surge strategy

Can you share your thoughts on why this has not really caught on? The project has less then 500,000 members. I know big companies are reluctant to install on their machines because of security issues, but even targeting just regular home PC's .5 million seems small.
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I seem to get the same responses from people when I tell them about the WCG..."What's in it for me...What do you get out of it?"
Unfortunately many people are too self centered or they can't be bothered...until something affets them directly. It's not enough to just want to make a difference...to be a part of science...to make the world a better place...to boldly....ok this is wheere the music kicks in.
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Re: Surge strategy

Hello annonymous,
My personal opinion is that this will catch on when school kids begin donating computer time to charitable causes, just like a bake sale. It will happen, but we will need a much improved server organization to handle the load.

Lawrence
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Re: Surge strategy

If you want to get the self-centered people involved, here is what you have to do (applicable only to those countries with an income tax): You have to make the crunching contribution tax deductible, or better, be used for tax credits. How it would have to work, in the United States, for example, is to assign a rate per cobblestone earned, using the average cost of the computer and energy usage. If it were tax deductible, then it would probably be subject to the 2.5% miscellaneous deduction floor. If it were treated as a tax credit, it would be a subtraction directly from the amount of tax owed. Even a small tax credit would bring people in droves. There are many issues involved and such a credit would have to passed by the appropriate legislative body, e.g., the US Congress. At least production is easily measured. If ever a project deserved something like that, it is this one. The chance of such a thing coming to pass is nil to absolutely non-existent.

As for me, I will keep crunching, because that is what I do.
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Re: Surge strategy

annonymous,
I am surprised that nobody told you yet, but when a project in WCG is going slowly it is not because there is not enough power for running it. It is usually for specific project related reasons. We have had such cases recently for three projects, each for different reasons:
- DDDT because the project team had been severely affected by hurricane Ike and could neither produce new WUs nor process the results of WUs created before the hurricane
- Rice because the project team was overwhelmed by results and had no more disk space to store them
- CEP because the WU generation process is very difficult and is being tested live on a first subset of data.

Generally speaking each project is not a game or a race and is following a pre-established schedule (more or less closely smile ). The crunching part (what we do here) has to fit in other activities of the project team.

Regarding CEP in particular I am sure that there is more demand for CEP WUs than what is currently available.

Cheers. Jean.
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Re: Surge strategy

I seem to get the same responses from people when I tell them about the WCG..."What's in it for me...What do you get out of it?"
Unfortunately many people are too self centered or they can't be bothered...until something affets them directly. It's not enough to just want to make a difference...to be a part of science...to make the world a better place...to boldly....ok this is wheere the music kicks in.



My sister died of bone cancer about 3 years ago, I had taken her to many chemo and radiation appointments for her last 18 months.

. . . and I saw entirely too many children and their anguished parents fighting this ugly disease.

I crunch, hoping that I might contribute a bit to making a world with fewer bald-headed children. . . .


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Re: Surge strategy

Thanks for your great thread over at BOINCstats, spreading the news and videos to the crunching community at large.

Yesterday, the Help Fight Childhood Cancer project had the first 5 million results completed by volunteers for 3,516 CPU years and 4,246 TeraFlops of computations.

 	Totals:
Run Time (y:d:h:m:s) 3516:040:06:20:11
Points Generated 2,972,100,565
Results Returned 5,016,367


Thanks all for contributing and... Crunch on!

edit: silly that is 4.2 Petaflop
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