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Re: HCMD2 Badge: Who will be first in Bronze, Silver & Gold?

Finally bronze..
+ 6 pages PV wink
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Re: HCMD2 Badge: Who will be first in Bronze, Silver & Gold?

Finally bronze..
+ 6 pages PV wink


Missed silver by some hours.
But 16 pages pending.crying
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Made Silver.

21 pages of PV. sad

Should have gold in the next few days.
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I'm not too charmed with the mini tasks, but after some doubt decided to take them anyway.

I am ok with them as they have promoted my rank (for results returned) from 1600+ to 1299 in a week
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<<<< Gold

Me too!!

Congrat's Ady! applause This one was a hard slog was it not? It would be much more cruncher friendly as a single quorum project ... and two weeks to run a 2 hour wu seems a bit excessive. The "no reply" wingmen can make it take forever. laughing biggrin

Aye DM - 'twas a hard slog with all those 5 - 10 minute tiddlers tired
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<<<< Gold

Me too!!

Congrat's Ady! applause This one was a hard slog was it not? It would be much more cruncher friendly as a single quorum project ... and two weeks to run a 2 hour wu seems a bit excessive. The "no reply" wingmen can make it take forever. laughing biggrin

Aye DM - 'twas a hard slog with all those 5 - 10 minute tiddlers tired

laughing biggrin Yes the shortest valid one I saw was a minute and 40 seconds. laughing I don't think a lot of science was accomplished with that one. Also, I opted out 2 days ago and I still have 22 pages of PV's. laughing biggrin
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laughing biggrin Yes the shortest valid one I saw was a minute and 40 seconds. laughing I don't think a lot of science was accomplished with that one. Also, I opted out 2 days ago and I still have 22 pages of PV's. laughing biggrin


Dataman, there is an exact number of combinations that need to be run for each protein pair. So the 1m40s work unit ran through x number of those combinations and returned them. It could have been thousands of combinations as some pairs of proteins require 4,000,000+ combinations.

In any case, even the smallest work units/results are used by the researchers. We would have liked for there not to be such short work units as it creates overhead for the servers, but this was a better option than having work units that ran for 200+ hours. We are still working on a long term solution with normal length work units.

Thanks,
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laughing biggrin Yes the shortest valid one I saw was a minute and 40 seconds. laughing I don't think a lot of science was accomplished with that one. Also, I opted out 2 days ago and I still have 22 pages of PV's. laughing biggrin


Dataman, there is an exact number of combinations that need to be run for each protein pair. So the 1m40s work unit ran through x number of those combinations and returned them. It could have been thousands of combinations as some pairs of proteins require 4,000,000+ combinations.

In any case, even the smallest work units/results are used by the researchers. We would have liked for there not to be such short work units as it creates overhead for the servers, but this was a better option than having work units that ran for 200+ hours. We are still working on a long term solution with normal length work units.

Thanks,
-Uplinger

Yes, I know you are working to make them more uniform. It's a lot of overhead on our end too. BTW, can you make our wingmen show up for work? laughing biggrin laughing
Thanks!
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laughing biggrin Yes the shortest valid one I saw was a minute and 40 seconds. laughing I don't think a lot of science was accomplished with that one. Also, I opted out 2 days ago and I still have 22 pages of PV's. laughing biggrin


Dataman, there is an exact number of combinations that need to be run for each protein pair. So the 1m40s work unit ran through x number of those combinations and returned them. It could have been thousands of combinations as some pairs of proteins require 4,000,000+ combinations.

In any case, even the smallest work units/results are used by the researchers. We would have liked for there not to be such short work units as it creates overhead for the servers, but this was a better option than having work units that ran for 200+ hours. We are still working on a long term solution with normal length work units.

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-Uplinger

Yes, I know you are working to make them more uniform. It's a lot of overhead on our end too. BTW, can you make our wingmen show up for work? laughing biggrin laughing
Thanks!


Hmmm....let me see if I can get approval to call them. Oh wait, nobody gave us their home number to call for work crying guess we'll just have to wait and let the BOINC system do it's work ... whistling

Thanks again to everyone for participating on World Community Grid and the various projects! hugs

-Uplinger
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Yes the shortest valid one I saw was a minute and 40 seconds. laughing I don't think a lot of science was accomplished with that one.


To complete what uplinger said:

Imagine you want to go from a point A to a point B. You don't know exactly where "B" is, but the goal of your life is to go there (the quickest, the best). Imagine that one day a well informed man (an explorer maybe ?) give you a hundred thousand of different maps. "I worked hard to draw them. I'm confident that one path to B is there ! But unfortunately I'm not sure what map you should use."
Well, it's now up to you to test all the paths... Fortunately, you have a super-smart-over-boosted GPS-like device: you give it a road and a description of what B should be; in return it will respond if this road may or may not lead to B. Sometimes it's easy to conclude, sometimes it takes much more time (but this cannot be predicted, you must let the super-GPS "test" the road).
If the super-GPS is able to tell you quickly that a road goes to nowhere, yeah, that's fine ! Of course it would be better to have found one interesting path but, anyway, you know that you can forget this road: it's a significant result (and the best part of it is that you were able to conclude this very quickly) !

That said, let me tell you that the name of the explorer is "JET", the application that considerably cut off the number of protein configurations to test. The super-GPS is "MAXDo", the docking application. In HCMD2, the algorithm was modified; it is now "smarter" considering the surfaces to dock. This leads to non-linearity (as compared with HCMD1) and the difficulty to obtain workunits of predictable length. And, last but not least, the super-GPS is driven by a multi-core CPU called WCG. Each of you being one (or more) core(s).

Nice, isn't it ? ;-)
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