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Project Update from the CEP Team

Dear WCG Crunchers,

We want to give everyone a quick update about the scientific status of the project. First, we want to apologize for the bad work units. While it is no excuse, the errors occur in only some of each randomized set and we somehow avoided them in our in-house testing. There are two main causes of the errors that we have seen:

1) If you have been following the progress of your work units on the graphs, you can see that the energy of the system fluctuates with each step. Sometimes, the position of atoms late in the run causes the energy of the system to change by more than is "reasonable" for the simulation and the work unit errors out.

2) The work units that error out faster are due to the random placement of the molecules causing a lot of atoms to be close to "edge" of the simulation, which causes an error when the energy of the system is evaluated.

And now for the good news: both of these errors are more prevalent in certain types of simulations we are running, so we have removed these from the queue. We have also been learning from the results we have already gotten back. The next batch of work units we send will take everything we have learned so far into account.

The CEP team is very thankful to everyone who has been crunching away. This is the biggest set of simulations we have ever had the chance to run and we are really excited about the future of the project! biggrin

The CEP Team
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Re: Project Update from the CEP Team

... and we thank you for the updates. It gives us extra motivation to continue on with a project that has definitely had some teething problems. The brief description of the causes of these two problems is also much appreciated.

Thanks again.

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sad Re: Project Update from the CEP Team

We've already had one of your new WUs error out on us, so we aborted the rest of the CEP WUs allocated to us and have opted out of the project again.

Get your act together guys!!! This project should still be in Beta test.
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Re: Project Update from the CEP Team

We've already had one of your new WUs error out on us, so we aborted the rest of the CEP WUs allocated to us and have opted out of the project again.

Get your act together guys!!! This project should still be in Beta test.
It is a trade off. If beta continues to run and nothing is sent out, everyone whines for work. I suspect that there are a lot of variables, and beta testing only detected some of them. Sometimes, that is the nature of science.

Today, Edison would have had a lot of staff meetings, goal setting and target dates to invent the light bulb. Had management gotten wind of his 10,000 attempts to do so, he would definitely have been fired.
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Re: Project Update from the CEP Team

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My thanks to the CEP Team for explaining the cause of so many errors. I had come to expect that much of the trouble was in the nature of the molecules being examined rather than simple program bugs. I am glad that you are on top of the situation.

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smile Re: Project Update from the CEP Team

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My thanks to the CEP Team for explaining the cause of so many errors. I had come to expect that much of the trouble was in the nature of the molecules being examined rather than simple program bugs. I am glad that you are on top of the situation.

Lawrence


Yeh, me to.
cheers guys
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Re: Project Update from the CEP Team

We've already had one of your new WUs error out on us, so we aborted the rest of the CEP WUs allocated to us and have opted out of the project again.

Get your act together guys!!! This project should still be in Beta test.

...so did you help in Beta when it was?
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Re: Project Update from the CEP Team

There are bound to be teething problems with any new project.

Thanks for the update and good luck with your work.
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Re: Project Update from the CEP Team

Perhaps a longer Beta run would have highlighted the problems. I have decided to opt of of this project for the time being.
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Re: Project Update from the CEP Team

As always I appreciate the updates, they go a long way in keeping people interested. smile
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