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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I was using BOInc recommended in WCG(ver. 5,xxx) and the error comes up. Always when i want to shutdown my PC and obsviously the BOINC my % gets down about 2-4%, in my computer this is 2 hours of processing, so everyday i lost 2 hours for nothing.
i have downloaded the 6.2.19 version from berkeley site and the issue keeps me f... Anyone knows how to solve this?? Win xp Pro 1Gb Ram 2.3ghz amd sempron+ Socket A(single Core) sorry for my poor english, i am from brazil... |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Hi, Gabriel.
First, losing a small amount when you stop BOINC is normal and inevitable. Second, you should not be losing many hours of work with a 2.3GHz processor. How long does it take you to complete a task normally? |
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logaritse
Advanced Cruncher Indonesia Joined: Apr 23, 2008 Post Count: 104 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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exit boinc before shutdown is recommended to prevent loosing 2-3% of work and right now WCG is testing 6.2.28 if you interest
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
That's not correct. BOINC doesn't save a checkpoint when you exit.
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Crystal Pellet
Veteran Cruncher Joined: May 21, 2008 Post Count: 1408 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Setting checkpoint differs per project application. The Rice project checkpoints very regularly. The HCC project checkpoints with increasing intervals. So at the and of a HCC-task the time between two checkpoints can vary from 15 to 45 minutes, depending of your CPU-speed. If you stop Boinc (or shutdown) you will have some lost work then.
If you shutdown your PC very often, you can consider to crunch only Rice. Have also a check on your setting of "write to disk at most every" ... seconds. In your case take the default of 60 seconds. Cheers |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
Reminded me of debsgr8 who wanted a beep for each checkpoint made so she'd know when to gracefully shut down the system right after one. On multi-cores that's a problem as than the question is which job ;?
----------------------------------------Generally, e.g. on my laptop I just close the lid and it goes into standby (XP HM, C2D). I don't even bother to pause. It only runs HCC which has an incrementally increasing checkpointing, the last one on slow machines I'm sure exceeding an hour and more towards theend. Anyway, with Leave in Memory [LIM] on and WtD set at 5 minutes (300 seconds), it somehow manages to just resume without loosing a second and always validating. For the Doubting Thomases here's the log from last night and resume of this morning. 11/23/2008 10:55:20 PM|World Community Grid|[checkpoint_debug] result X0000055201265200508240309_0 checkpointed 11/23/2008 11:24:06 PM|World Community Grid|[checkpoint_debug] result X0000055201265200508240309_0 checkpointed 11/23/2008 11:24:34 PM|World Community Grid|[checkpoint_debug] result X0000055241316200508111419_0 checkpointed 11/24/2008 7:43:13 AM||Suspending network activity - time of day 11/24/2008 8:03:47 AM|World Community Grid|[checkpoint_debug] result X0000055201265200508240309_0 checkpointed 11/24/2008 8:17:59 AM|World Community Grid|[checkpoint_debug] result X0000055241316200508111419_0 checkpointed 11/24/2008 8:26:20 AM|World Community Grid|[checkpoint_debug] result X0000055201265200508240309_0 checkpointed 11/24/2008 8:47:33 AM|World Community Grid|[checkpoint_debug] result X0000055201265200508240309_0 checkpointed Restarts would be logged, the last seen on the 22nd when I booted the system (do it about once per fortnight) Those would show as: 11/22/2008 7:05:39 PM|World Community Grid|Restarting task X0000055190451200509061953_1 using hcc1 version 606 11/22/2008 7:05:39 PM|World Community Grid|Restarting task X0000055151402200509061751_0 using hcc1 version 606 All that I know in setting and handling check-pointing is collected in a Start Here FAQ. The index in in my sig for the shortest route to it. ciao
WCG
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Here with HCC takes 14 hours but after reducing the RAM available to 600MB it takes 17 hours!
Yeah for sure, i know that i lost 1,2 hour of processing( 2 or 3%) , but i think it´s too much! |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
Gabriel,
----------------------------------------Unfortunately the progress indication is linear whilst the amount of computation effort to do the first 2-3% takes 5 minutes, the last 2-3% can take an hour and longer. That's why looking at the checkpoint before closing is helpful to minimize the time loss. It may be too much but it's technically impossible to save an analysis step in the middle and resuming it at the same point and not running the risk of result corruption. In my and for many using standby, the operating system seems to be able to freeze memory image and continue. In Standby the computer still uses a little power to maintain the memory state. As for ram availability: HCC uses between 40-57mb per job, it varies but is small compared to other WCG projects, so a 600mb limit should not make a difference. Some jobs are more complex than others. Generally on my laptop they take 6 hours, so if a longer comes along of 7, then for a machine that took 14 hours it becomes 17 etc. ciao
WCG
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
yeah i think i understand now, thanks to Sekerob for the best answer for my question!
How do you know how much RAM HCC use for every job? |
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JmBoullier
Former Community Advisor Normandy - France Joined: Jan 26, 2007 Post Count: 3716 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Open Windows Task Manager by pressing Ctrl+Shift+Esc, select the "Processes" tab, and if you don't see the information you wish about memory, from the Menu bar select View->Select columns to choose the columns you want to see.
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