Index  | Recent Threads  | Unanswered Threads  | Who's Active  | Guidelines  | Search
 

Quick Go »
No member browsing this thread
Thread Status: Active
Total posts in this thread: 11
Posts: 11   Pages: 2   [ 1 2 | Next Page ]
[ Jump to Last Post ]
Post new Thread
Author
Previous Thread This topic has been viewed 3005 times and has 10 replies Next Thread
Former Member
Cruncher
Joined: May 22, 2018
Post Count: 0
Status: Offline
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
comparing the quad core 2.4ghz to the p4 3.2ghz

Greetings.
I just bought myself a quad core q6600 2.4ghz machine and boy is it fast, well it seems that way. My seti@home work unit took about 30 mins to complete and that same work unit on the p4 3.2ghz took 3 times that long
the longest faah work unit I've had so far took a little over 9 hours on my quad core, , I wish there was some way to roll back the clock and test the work units of a couple of months ago, the really long ones that took nearly a day to do on my pentium 4. Is this possible?
I'm enjoying my new machine and I really do think it's much faster than the p4.
[Nov 5, 2008 10:34:34 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Former Member
Cruncher
Joined: May 22, 2018
Post Count: 0
Status: Offline
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: comparing the quad core 2.4ghz to the p4 3.2ghz

Hello whocrazy,
The Athlon64 broke up the x86 instructions into 3 streams of micro-code. The Core2 breaks them up into 4 streams - - even faster. The poor Pentium 4 is left behind in the dust.

Lawrence
[Nov 5, 2008 1:47:16 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Former Member
Cruncher
Joined: May 22, 2018
Post Count: 0
Status: Offline
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: comparing the quad core 2.4ghz to the p4 3.2ghz

now just imagine what would happen if every single computer doing the faah project was a quad core!
[Nov 5, 2008 8:34:01 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Sid2
Senior Cruncher
USA
Joined: Jun 12, 2007
Post Count: 259
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: comparing the quad core 2.4ghz to the p4 3.2ghz

now just imagine what would happen if every single computer doing the faah project was a quad core!


Imagine if all those quad cores were i7's:

Intel Core i7: The Essential Guide
----------------------------------------

[Nov 22, 2008 2:44:09 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
logaritse
Advanced Cruncher
Indonesia
Joined: Apr 23, 2008
Post Count: 104
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: comparing the quad core 2.4ghz to the p4 3.2ghz

I can't imagine because i don't have sad but i can dream to have core i7 biggrin
----------------------------------------
Simplicity meet classic
[Nov 22, 2008 3:07:38 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Rickjb
Veteran Cruncher
Australia
Joined: Sep 17, 2006
Post Count: 666
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: comparing the quad core 2.4ghz to the p4 3.2ghz - and the i7

Some benchmarks of the i7 running HCC
Movieman has posted some early results crunching HCC on the i7 965 he has been trying, over at XtremeSystems
The length of HCC WUs is fairly constant, so I compared times from one of my Yorkfield (LGA775 45nm) quads here
From these very limited statistics, when the i7 was running with HyperThreading disabled, it ran 4 WUs at once, and was about 12% faster than the Yorkfield, clock-for-clock. With HT enabled, it ran 8 WUs at once, but they ran more slowly. However, the overall throughput was then 27% faster than the Yorkfield, clock-for-clock.
I've read that HT on the P4 makes WCG throughput slower (but JimBoullier - 2 posts down - has found otherwise for HCC), but on the i7 it seems to be the biggest factor in increasing WCG productivity, at least on HCC. And HT may work even more effectively when running a mix of different projects.
Don't be disheartened by your choice of a Q6600, though. They still give about most crunching bang for your buck.
----------------------------------------
[Edit 3 times, last edit by Rickjb at Nov 23, 2008 4:26:40 PM]
[Nov 22, 2008 4:18:45 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
KLM_Nederlands
Cruncher
Joined: Apr 26, 2007
Post Count: 14
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: comparing the quad core 2.4ghz to the p4 3.2ghz - and the i7

I´d just thought i´d throw in my 2 cents here. I´m currently running a P4 HT system that´s also 5 yrs old, but I am also on a laptop that is a Centrino Duo. I do see the difference between the 2, my laptop can usually get the HCC done between 4.95-6 hours while my P4 gets it done between 14-15 hours I have noticed when I do suspend all my WU´s except 1, it runs faster but I want to get more results in.

I do have 1 internet connection sharing 2 computers. I am hard-wired to my laptop and will connect my other computer every 12 hours to send results. Don´t get me wrong I love crunching and I love numbers. The statistical maps and those 21 high res images I just like to look at, wish they were updated every day but oh well.
[Nov 23, 2008 1:34:16 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
JmBoullier
Former Community Advisor
Normandy - France
Joined: Jan 26, 2007
Post Count: 3716
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: comparing the quad core 2.4ghz to the p4 3.2ghz - and the i7

I have done such a test recently with my P4 HT 2.4 GHz and I have found 10.4 hours when running HCC WUs one at a time, and about 15.5 when running two concurrently. Which would show that HT is finally giving a better global WCG throughput when running two HCCs at the same time. I was not expecting that, so my measurements are not biased. Note that HCC is much different from other projects (more integer calculations than usual, I think), so what is true for HCC might not be true for those other projects.
HCC is also running much faster (25 %) in a Q6600 in 64-bit than in 32-bit, which is not true for other projects.

Regarding crediting (I have looked at the threads that Rickjb has given) I confirm that the way HT is screwing up measurements remains the main problem for grid computing. However it appears that what is finally granted seems close to what it should be. Remains the problem of runtime (for WCG only) since this P4 HT is now returning 2 days of runtime per day while it is doing "only" about 34 % more work.

Cheers. Jean.
----------------------------------------
Team--> Decrypthon -->Statistics/Join -->Thread
[Nov 23, 2008 2:44:33 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Rickjb
Veteran Cruncher
Australia
Joined: Sep 17, 2006
Post Count: 666
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: comparing the quad core 2.4ghz to the p4 3.2ghz - and the i7

HCC is also running much faster (25 %) in a Q6600 in 64-bit than in 32-bit, which is not true for other projects.

JB, how are the numbers when you scale your HCC times for the Q6600 in 64-bit, to the 3733MHz used by Movieman on his i7? The upper-end Yorkfield quads (QX9650) are generally considered to be 5-8% faster clock-for-clock than the Kentsfields (Q6600) mainly due to 3MB cache/core vs 2MB/core. But if you are 25% faster under 64-bit, you'd be about 18% faster than my QX9650 in 32-bit, which I found is about 12% below the i7 with HT off. That would leave you about 6% over the i7 without HT, which would be surprising.

Sorry if we're getting a bit off track ...
[Nov 23, 2008 4:44:32 PM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher
USA
Joined: Jul 4, 2006
Post Count: 7846
Status: Offline
Project Badges:
Reply to this Post  Reply with Quote 
Re: comparing the quad core 2.4ghz to the p4 3.2ghz - and the i7

I run several 1.6 and 1.7 gz P4's. They do HCC right around 17 hrs. very consistently. None have HT. They were pieced together from several throw away machines. I can only look longingly at the quad cores at the moment. Those i7's look mighty nice, but at what price ? Perhaps at tax refund time ???????????? (Yeah, I know I could save on the electricity, but they help to heat the basement smile )

Cheers
----------------------------------------
Sgt. Joe
*Minnesota Crunchers*
[Nov 25, 2008 2:48:45 AM]   Link   Report threatening or abusive post: please login first  Go to top 
Posts: 11   Pages: 2   [ 1 2 | Next Page ]
[ Jump to Last Post ]
Post new Thread