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Re: Why am I getting jobs from WCG??

I'm no expert but its your problem and your cause of the problem. If you had simply requested No More Work, the current pool of jobs would have been completed and you could have then moved on. As explained, reset does not perform the task you think it does. Now you know. Your distress was caused by a lack of patience in not letting the tasks complete, since you are unable or unwilling to abort them all. Don't try to export your misdirected anger.

**Edited for intolerence** TKH... rolling eyes biggrin
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Re: Why am I getting jobs from WCG??

Nite Owl,

The reply by Didactylos reminded me of a discussion with Adywebb and the recover function that exists for not-started work. Here is my reply to Ady:

http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/printpost?post=161904

Thus, the way forward is what Didactylos advised in his first post. My BAM angle in this can be ignored... was having shut eye after that ;)

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Re: Why am I getting jobs from WCG??

I'm not "misunderstanding" anything. So tell me ********why is it that none of the other projects have this annoying habit... *******. You suggested I do a few hours of unecessary work just to cover up a failing of WCG to understand the term "requesting 0 seconds of work" or are you telling me WCG disregards everything sent to it? Perhaps the work as well?

All projects that has re-issuing of lost work enabled, will re-issue lost work if you connect the Scheduling-server, even if project is set to "no new work". But, normally a project won't connect to Scheduling-server, if it's not got any work at all, and is set to "no new work", so you won't see this behaviour on most projects except if you manually hits "update"... But, there's also an option a project can set, ordering the client to connect to scheduling-server periodically, this is in case there's a batch of bad work has been distributed, and the re-connect can cancel these bad work. WCG is using this feature, and will order client to re-connect every 3? days. Haven't been attached for some time, but AFAIK BURP has been using a 1-hour re-connect...

In any case, the "hightly recommended" method, if you for some reason don't want to continue running a project for some time is, to set no new work, and crunch-out your already-cached work. If for some reason can't or don't want to finish cached work, please Abort the work, and make sure you Report to server the aborted work. Reporting the abortion is so the work can be sent to someone else, and don't need to wait for the deadline to time-out.

If you instead reset project, you're not telling the project anything about not wanting to finish your cached work. And, in case project has enabled re-issuing of lost work, you'll be re-issued the same work, if you makes a connection to scheduling-server... If you're not connecting, it will still need to wait until deadline, so is not the recommended behaviour.

Similarly on detach, you'll not report to project you're not crunching your wu's. But, if you detach & re-attach, you'll normally be re-assigned the same host-id, and this will actually abort all previous work for you...


Just to show you it's not something "special" with WCG's handling of lost work, even set to "no new work", this from Einstein@home:
13.10.2008 18:11:55|Einstein@Home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.  Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
13.10.2008 18:12:00|Einstein@Home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 1 new tasks
13.10.2008 18:12:00|Einstein@Home|[sched_ops_debug] Server version 603
13.10.2008 18:12:00|Einstein@Home|Message from server: Resent lost result h1_0971.60_S5R4__804_S5R4a_1

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Re: Why am I getting jobs from WCG??

The simplest way to get no more work from WCG is to detach completely from WCG. I did that for a short time to crunch the last bit of Seti@home projects. When I came back to WCG, I did the reverse and added WCG while detaching from Seti.

Good Luck
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