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Former Member
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Well, I didn't abort the last of the other projects and it seems they were the cause of the problem.
Not sure if it was proteome folding or fight aids, but apparently one of them doesn't play nice with my required system configuration. Did, I appreciate your comments, but perhaps you don't understand CUDA? It allows for much broader access to the video hardware. This is not a bug, it is by design. I also have see this before. A very experienced troubleshoot swears up and down that it isn't their <add pet hardware or software here> only to find out that it is.  I'm still quite convinced the problem is with one of the project softwares just as you are convinced otherwise.Regardless of whether Didactylos or I have the correct interpretation of the symptoms, we now have a workaround for people experiencing system lockups running CUDA-enabled X64 systems with Boinc. Which, of course, is good news for the WCG community. We can close this thread down, I think everyone has been very helpful and gracious. Thanks to all. Kindest Regards, relic |
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Former Member
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relic[H], I'm not contending that your problem isn't caused by a conflict with World Community Grid. I was simply trying to explain that fixing the conflict was (probably) out of our hands.
World Community Grid projects, and BOINC in particular do suffer from bugs, past, present and future. I'm not claiming some special kind of bug-free status. It's just your particular circumstances where it isn't the sole cause of the problem. Yes, I know what CUDA does. But World Community Grid doesn't use those features. I know this, because people request it so frequently :-) World Community Grid do NOT recommend BOINC 6.2 yet. And BOINC 6.3 is so buggy that.... well. Let's not go there - it's alpha software. relic[H], are you saying your workaround is to run at 80%? That would suggest that this is a timing problem, and confirm that BOINC isn't directly to blame. Or are you saying the problem is a specific project? If Human Proteome Folding, then that gives us a new avenue of approach. Human Proteome Folding is unique in having an unusual number of soft page faults due to the memory access pattern it has. The WCG techs have reduced this a lot, but not entirely. Again, in theory, this should have no effect on the stability of your computer, or the graphics card. But soft faults are handled by the kernel, so again, WCG isn't the direct cause of the problem. FightAIDS@Home uses the same software as DDDT, so is unlikely to be the problem. |
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Former Member
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Didactylos,
I'm running at 100% now. Sorry, I didn't keep my changes up to date here. Do you think it's worth while to pursue the problem further? If we can nail it down it might help other WCGers. I might as well help out since you all were so determined to help me.  After all of the testing I don't think this has anything to do with the Boinc client itself. the v5 and v6.2 both work at 100% with the fight cancer project. Which means I probably posted this in the wrong forum after all. I do believe it is related to at least one of the other projects I was running. Since I'm not too certain what results belong to what project I reviewed my results and I did notice a number of errors on both x64 and x86 systems with results beginning with: lz### ... ly### ... the x64s systems also had errors on the: faah440# ... But the 32-bit boxes did not have any errors with those faah results. The two x64 systems both have 8GB, which could relate to a memory access issue. But I would have never suspected that a memory page fault could freeze Vista, Win98 perhaps. What do you think? Worth pursuing? Thanks and Regards, relic |
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Former Member
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Yes, lz### ... are HPF2 work units. If you open BOINC Manager on the tasks tab, you will see the work unit name and the application name listed together.
Until other people start reporting the same problem you have, the best we can do for now is to identify which projects trigger the problem, and opt out of them. If it transpires that this problem is affecting lots of people, then IBM can have a little chat with nVidia, and something can be done. While it's just you.... well, it would be great if the techs could spend time on individual problems, but right now they are up to their eyeballs in work. They always are, to tell the truth. |
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No reason to bother anyone with it until it becomes a bigger issue.
I'm plenty busy myself. Take care, and thanks. I'm sure I'll see you around the forums. ...and thanks to all you other folks who worked with me on this issue. |
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JmBoullier
Former Community Advisor Normandy - France Joined: Jan 26, 2007 Post Count: 3716 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Hi relic!
----------------------------------------I am sorry this will not really help you to clarify your specific problems but I think it is fair to remind you that HPF2 is currently under investigation by the techs for a problem which seems to affect its version 6 with Vista more than with XP. See the following threads for more information and feedback. 401 Error Windows Vista Ultimate X64 SP1 Beta Testing for new version of Human Proteome Folding - Phase 2 application HPF2 Version 6.04 beta And unfortunately 6.04 has visibly not solved the problem. Sorry about that. Jean. |
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JmBoullier,
Any help required to troubleshoot or is it already well in progress? |
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1). have you tried running bionic at stock board settings (not OC'd)
2). How far do you have your system OC'd? |
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JmBoullier
Former Community Advisor Normandy - France Joined: Jan 26, 2007 Post Count: 3716 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Hi Barney!
----------------------------------------Too fast again? Take your time...  From relic's post dated Sep 29, 2008 9:02:40 PM: The system was OCed but I turned it down to stock prior to loading the BOINC client because I was unfamiliar with it. (Set OC back to stock. rule #1 of DC troubleshooting right? ;) ) Cheers. Jean. |
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mreuter80
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what baffles me is that he had had some problems also with f@h according to his first message.
maybe there is a general issue how the "folding" application should be programmed in a 64bit environment. relic: just stay with the other projects for now. cheers |
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