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Richard Mitnick
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Re: Suggestion on the Badge System

One of the best things about Rice is that it has a positive aspect. Everything else we do at WCG is aimed at a disease and the need is dire to solve these things.

But, Rice points to a future.

For people really interested in the work in which they are participating, this is a real plus.

I am crunching Rice on 2 PIII's, and I just did a new profile for my 2 Core 2 Duo machines, put them back on all projects (they were on Rice and HCC), and doubled the weighting in BOINC (I crunch a bunch of what i think are valuable projects at BOINC). So far, I have gotten Dengue and Proteome WU's.

Badges are nice; but they don't go anywhere, they are within the community.

Widgets on the other hand are very transportable. I have one, along with a BOINC icon, in my email signature both at home and at work, complete with URL's for WCG and BOINC.

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mikaok
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Re: Suggestion on the Badge System

Badges are nice; but they don't go anywhere, they are within the community.

Widgets on the other hand are very transportable. I have one, along with a BOINC icon, in my email signature both at home and at work, complete with URL's for WCG and BOINC.


I agree with you, something new for marketing WCG-community would be nice. I have quite a discreetingly keeping WCG-banner only at my website. I think it could be also telling about projects that we have here. Now only computer enthusiast become intrested about from the slogan wink
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Re: Suggestion on the Badge System

The widget has already got an option to show the projects. I've used paint+photobucket to publish the banner with projects and badges, results/cpu years. No one has been stopped yet to do that.

But, to make it easier, what's coming is an independent of any scripting type image that can be included anywhere e.g. here in the forum signature just using the [img ]hyperlink[/img ] coding. Call it a WCG compliant life sig image as what the likes as BOINCstats provide.
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Richard Mitnick
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You know, for whatever reason crunching is a hard sell.

I am not technically savvy, so, wanting to help build the effort, I am constantly looking for news articles about some subject related to any WCG or BOINC project. I go in and write a comment which basically says, "...did you know that you can help...here's how..." and I describe what is going on.

I started a team locally, thinking it might be a magnet in this area, which boasts a very major research university, the research facilities of a major pharmaceutical company, and a huge multi-faceted medical/pharmacological Fortune 500 company. In other words, good demographics for computer literate people. I have gotten all of seven team members; but two are from my office, one is my sister-in-law, one is my neighbor. Not a big success.

The local paper had a great article on Dr. Foran's Cancer project because the institution is local. It had great pictures, including the screen saver. I dragged that article around, showing everyone and really annoying my wife. No comers.

I have BOINC and WCG T-shirts. I wear one or the other on my daylight exercise walk through the middle of town after work. I also wear one of them if I am going to the local supermarket for an extended period of shopping. I have been doing this all Summer. I did get two guys, in one incident; but, they were standing outside nursing beers. Who know if they actually went inside and looked at any of the web sites? Not promising.

So, we all need to keep on trying. 80,000 crunchers, or 150,000, sounds like a lot, and I do not dismiss the numbers. But in a world of close to a billion personal computers? Not impressive at all.

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Here we have had only a few articles about grid computing. And I think none since 2006. Those few articles were published only at the computer magazines (I couldn't find any from our daily papers). But they weren't big articles either..

When someone mentions grid computing, people can't believe how easy it actually is. They have a lot of biases about computer you should have and how it affects their computer use etc.
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WCG has a strategy and it's developing. To me by taking the 'from within' approach, the proliferation should expand. In-Office and In-College and In-University will eventually spread like a spider in the heart of the web. Spider moves and the vibrations go all the way to the outer fabric. The bigger these organizations, the bigger the viral marketing effect. Anyway, here a 70 day picture. The Machine is now sitting on 200 Tera Flops for every workday of the week.



And believe it or not, there seem still to be folk out there installing the UD agent software and trying to communicate with WCG. If you see a place where this old agent is still circulated let us know here or through mail to support, so WCG can contact these sources to remove it.

Teach Your Children Well and they'll be appreciating this as a normal.
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Richard Mitnick
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I fully agree with the value of "from within". I would just like there to be more "withins".

To me, the doing of this work is just so absolutely obviously valuable, I do not see how people of reasonable intelligence and with computer literacy and some kind of decent machine can pass this up.

I strugged to find projects that would run on my PIII's. I did not find Rice, Rice found me and lots of others by aiming right at this problem. Over at BOINC, I found Rosetta@home, Spinhenge@home, and Proteins@home.

My Core-2-Duos run much more.

There is still a lot of fear about security, and some people just will not be convinced.

So, however people are attracted to the work is super with me and I am constantly struggling at it.

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Re: Suggestion on the Badge System

astrolab said:
We all know about the badge after 14 days.


Maybe, just maybe, the extremely low threshold of a 14-day commitment to a project was well thought out beforehand.

I'm guessing the 14-day badges were introduced knowing full well that some members will run after the badges. If you ask me, it was a good way of getting members to at least check out all the different projects... and especially the new projects.

But there is a downside. Like the titles, the badges may be misleading to newbies. If a "badge running" member who chit-chats and plays games a lot wanders into the support forums, a newbie may think this gasbag knows what s/he's talking about.

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Re: Suggestion on the Badge System

how about a badge for


  • continuous crunching days (constantly changing) miss one day and start over till you get to the next level.
  • N continuous month(s) (constantly changing) miss one day and start over
  • N continuous year(s) (constantly changing) miss one day and start over

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Dmitrio
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2BarneyBadass And if a person crunches constanly for a "high-level" badge, and then leaves for vacation with his comps off, he will lose all his badges? I would probably be pissed of :)
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