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I hate the core percentage jumping in BOINC

The way I set up my RMClock to do handle the EIST settings is good. But BOINC's processes make the clock speed jump from highest to lowest every second, defeating its purpose.

I don't want to use threadmaster yet, so I'm gonna stop using BOINC until the CPU percentages don't jump around like some jumping beans.

Goodbye for now.
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Re: I hate the core percentage jumping in BOINC

Set it to 100%. Instant solution.
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Re: I hate the core percentage jumping in BOINC

.... or set it to 100%. You don't tell what type of machine, but Desktops are fine and given the lowest priority it has non to speak of impact for the user.

TheadMaster is really easy (see Start Here forum topic you probably found). Got it on all my WXP machines, but does not work on vista (not tried it given others failed to get it running on that OS).

For laptop, when on mains, pull the battery and open all drawers it has. Have a top of the line lappy and spend 40 Euro on a NotePal that gives it extra cooling even if on knees it can still run on 100%. Fans are truly noiseless (or I'm deaf).

If you need help setting TM, let me know.

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Re: I hate the core percentage jumping in BOINC

.... or set it to 100%. You don't tell what type of machine, but Desktops are fine and given the lowest priority it has non to speak of impact for the user.

TheadMaster is really easy (see Start Here forum topic you probably found). Got it on all my WXP machines, but does not work on vista (not tried it given others failed to get it running on that OS).

For laptop, when on mains, pull the battery and open all drawers it has. Have a top of the line lappy and spend 40 Euro on a NotePal that gives it extra cooling even if on knees it can still run on 100%. Fans are truly noiseless (or I'm deaf).

If you need help setting TM, let me know.

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I'm using RMClock on my desktop, and I've realized it allows me to save on some energy costs by allowing me to run the CPU at its highest speeds only when necessary. BOINC screws with that by making it jump from highest to lowest settings every second.

I don't want BOINC running at 100%, and I looked at threadmaster's instructions, and I wanted nothing to do with it because of the steps it would take to get it working. I could do it, but I just don't want to go through the steps to do it.

Under better circumstances, I'd love to run BOINC and help out with distributed computing, but personally, this little issue's gonna have to be fixed before I get onboard with it, and I hope they get to it quickly.
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Re: I hate the core percentage jumping in BOINC

If you'd rather run CPU idle at 100% instead of BOINC at 100%, that's up to you.

If I die from one of these diseases before a useful drug interaction is found, it won't matter about energy costs. My estate can pay them. I'm doing useful charitable work, instead of sending money to places that merely ask for more money so they can ask for more money.

During the winter, my 4 computers (5 cores) running BOINC at 100% help heat the house anyway. They are saving on fuel bills for the colder part of the year while they are accomplishing their tasks. During the summer, I can usually open the windows.

I'm using RMClock on my desktop, and I've realized it allows me to save on some energy costs by allowing me to run the CPU at its highest speeds only when necessary. BOINC screws with that by making it jump from highest to lowest settings every second.

BOINC needs frequent disk writes and checkpoint writes, which may be causing that external clock issue. The whole point is to use the excess computer task percentage. It will use what it gets, but backs off or totally stops if the computer is needed for something else.

The BOINC throttle itself suffers from the same ragged percentage problem, but may be smoothed out in a future release.

This link mentions corruption of the Vista taskbar by RMClock. BOINC isn't needed.
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-7813_102-0.html?f...505&messageID=2515608

As for the voltage - did you check to see if it's really applied? (with some monitoring apps like SpeedFan)

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I think this is happening because of the Windows (CPU driver) power management interfering with RMClock's one.

http://forum.rightmark.org/topic.cgi?id=6:594
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Re: I hate the core percentage jumping in BOINC

If you'd rather run CPU idle at 100% instead of BOINC at 100%, that's up to you.

If I die from one of these diseases before a useful drug interaction is found, it won't matter about energy costs. My estate can pay them. I'm doing useful charitable work, instead of sending money to places that merely ask for more money so they can ask for more money.

During the winter, my 4 computers (5 cores) running BOINC at 100% help heat the house anyway. They are saving on fuel bills for the colder part of the year while they are accomplishing their tasks. During the summer, I can usually open the windows.


You make it sound as if idle at 100% uses the same energy as 100% BOINC. If that is what you mean, times have changed and that is not the case at all.

Running a computer at 100% load all the time has some real month to month energy impact on the average household.

Wanting to modify BOINC to contribute the amount I'm comfortable contributing should be a major concern.

As of now, it's interfering with my computer usage so the whole purpose of BOINC is being defeated by its flaws.

I'm glad some are giving more to this charity than others. Then again, perhaps having lived a more productive life actually preventing or curing diseases instead of patting oneself over the head for keeping more computers in the "on" position might have been better charity, but we don't hold that against anybody do we?
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Re: I hate the core percentage jumping in BOINC

[Then again, perhaps having lived a more productive life actually preventing or curing diseases instead of patting oneself over the head for keeping more computers in the "on" position might have been better charity, but we don't hold that against anybody do we?

You obviously do!
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Re: I hate the core percentage jumping in BOINC

wcgacct3, you can't conclude anything about your computer's power use unless you actually hook up a watt meter and test it.

May I suggest that the most productive solution for you would be to decide what percentage you want to contribute, then set BOINC to run, for example, only during the night at 100%. This way, you will average 60% (or whatever you choose) and can also take full advantage of your computer's low power settings for the rest of the time.

I must stress that what you seem to want (BOINC running at 60% while your computer remains in low power, underclocked mode) is counter-productive. It is much more energy efficient to run your computer at full power for a short time, than to run your computer at reduced power for the longer period it would take to do the same amount of work. You can even turn your computer off completely while it is not crunching. As you know, that is the very most energy efficient mode.

This is a lesson we have learned from much experience with BOINC, and I hope you find it useful.

While a smoother throttle is planned for BOINC, it is needed for other reasons. Energy efficiency hasn't really been mentioned in that context.
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Re: I hate the core percentage jumping in BOINC

You are missinterpreting the mans request he just would like it to work like UD used to

The granularity on the CPU Throttle is not what it was and I too, running BOINC on a server, would have liked to have it nicely smoothed as it used to be with UD but that is not available to us anymore as a download.

That way RMclock could be configured to work and power consumption really is an issue with many out here.

You don't have to guilt the guy into 100% or nothing

If you read between the lines I suspect the chap (or chapess) is a Doctor

You know people who have cared about these things all the days of their lives and the right sort of person to publicize the great work going on here on the World Community Grid.

Please think before you speak, you are here to help, not chase folk away

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Re: I hate the core percentage jumping in BOINC

You are missinterpreting the mans request he just would like it to work like UD used to

The granularity on the CPU Throttle is not what it was and I too, running BOINC on a server, would have liked to have it nicely smoothed as it used to be with UD but that is not available to us anymore as a download.

That way RMclock could be configured to work and power consumption really is an issue with many out here.

You don't have to guilt the guy into 100% or nothing

If you read between the lines I suspect the chap (or chapess) is a Doctor

You know people who have cared about these things all the days of their lives and the right sort of person to publicize the great work going on here on the World Community Grid.

Please think before you speak, you are here to help, not chase folk away

Dave

Curiously I wrote virtually the same content in a reply as Didactylos but checked not to double up as we so often do. Thanks David Autumns for sharing this assessment. Much appreciated.

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