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Johnny Cool
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 28, 2005 Post Count: 8621 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
G'day, Co-Captains (fellow Team Mates)!
----------------------------------------![]() Just the facts ... ![]() 5 December 2019 Overall WCG Stats Total Run Time (Rank) 5234:064:21:42:49 (#42) Points Generated (Rank) 6,584,714,430 (#47) Results Returned (Rank) 15,806,114 (#43) Daily Team Stats from last refresh: Total Run Time --- Points Generated --- Results Returned 1:069:13:03:30 --- 1,470,291 --- 2,105 Brought to you by "Grid Num3ers Fun", a Num3ers Fun Company *TM The biggest and most funniest data corporation on the InterWebs! Top 50s in Total Run Time in stats yesterday/last update RT-48 PG and RR still too erratic Free DC-Stats (RT-Total Run Time PG-Points Generated RR-Results Returned) AP - ALL PROJECTS, Plus and Minus symbols +up, -down, etc. All Of Our Team Challenges Here Challenge Name: Challenge Type: Challenge Project: Start Date: End Date: Rank: The Dollars Run Biannual RT AP 10/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 3 December 2019 PG AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 December 2019 RR AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 December 2019 RT AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 7 Alsace Grid HS-TB RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 10 Alsace Grid FA@H RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid MIP RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 Alsace Grid OpenZika RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid SCC RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid MCM RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 5 Alsace Grid ARP RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 Pebor Challenge RT - AP 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 5 From Free-DC Stats Threats - 2 Opportunities - 1 500 Days out for threats, under 500 for opportunities Looking for a cure. Join our International Team! Andrax: a term that means a total annihilation of a disease. ![]() |
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Carpet Rodent
Senior Cruncher Joined: Apr 29, 2007 Post Count: 437 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Howzit! Doesn't look like anything's ready to send back yet, but... zesa willing, might manage this afternoon! The weather's held out for a braai this afternoon, so the plan is to start around 14:00. Fortunately, it's one of the few things our electric company can't make a bugger-up of! All the best from here :-D
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Johnny Cool
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 28, 2005 Post Count: 8621 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Howzit! Doesn't look like anything's ready to send back yet, but... zesa willing, might manage this afternoon! The weather's held out for a braai this afternoon, so the plan is to start around 14:00. Fortunately, it's one of the few things our electric company can't make a bugger-up of! All the best from here :-D Hang in there like you always do. I had to pick all projects before I could crunch. Then, it is slowly getting back. Kind of. ![]() G'day, Co-Captains (fellow Team Mates)! ![]() 6 December 2019 Overall WCG Stats Total Run Time (Rank) 5235:126:00:32:43 (#42) Points Generated (Rank) 6,586,176,347 (#47) Results Returned (Rank) 15,808,208 (#43) Daily Team Stats from last refresh: Total Run Time --- Points Generated --- Results Returned 1:061:02:49:54 --- 1,461,917 --- 2,094 Brought to you by "Grid Num3ers Fun", a Num3ers Fun Company *TM The biggest and most funniest data corporation on the InterWebs! Top 50s in Total Run Time in stats yesterday/last update RT-50 PG and RR still too erratic: PG-62 RR-66 Free DC-Stats (RT-Total Run Time PG-Points Generated RR-Results Returned) AP - ALL PROJECTS, Plus and Minus symbols +up, -down, etc. All Of Our Team Challenges Here Challenge Name: Challenge Type: Challenge Project: Start Date: End Date: Rank: The Dollars Run Biannual RT AP 10/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 3 December 2019 PG AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 7 up 1 December 2019 RR AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 December 2019 RT AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 7 Alsace Grid HS-TB RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 10 up 1 Alsace Grid FA@H RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid MIP RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 Alsace Grid OpenZika RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid SCC RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid MCM RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 5 Alsace Grid ARP RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 Pebor Challenge RT - AP 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 5 From Free-DC Stats Threats - 1 * Opportunities - 1 500 Days out for threats, under 500 for opportunities Looking for a cure. Join our International Team! Andrax: a term that means a total annihilation of a disease. ![]() |
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Johnny Cool
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 28, 2005 Post Count: 8621 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
G'day, Co-Captains (fellow Team Mates)!
----------------------------------------![]() 8 December 2019 There are now 35,107 Crunching Teams at the WCG. (#000) = WCG Rank in it's respective category Milestones exceeded by some of the very best crunchers at the WCG:
![]() ![]() ![]() Overall WCG Stats Total Run Time (Rank) 5237:239:09:04:48 (#42) Points Generated (Rank) 6,589,014,342 (#47) Results Returned (Rank) 15,812,293 (#43) Daily Team Stats from last refresh: Total Run Time --- Points Generated --- Results Returned 1:115:01:09:31 --- 1,612,652 --- 2,302 Brought to you by "Grid Num3ers Fun", a Num3ers Fun Company *TM The biggest and most funniest data corporation on the InterWebs! Top 50s in Total Run Time in stats yesterday/last update RT-48 PG and RR still too erratic: PG-67 RR-66 Free DC-Stats (RT-Total Run Time PG-Points Generated RR-Results Returned) AP - ALL PROJECTS, Plus and Minus symbols +up, -down, etc. All Of Our Team Challenges Here Challenge Name: Challenge Type: Challenge Project: Start Date: End Date: Rank: The Dollars Run Biannual RT AP 10/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 3 December 2019 PG AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 7 December 2019 RR AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 December 2019 RT AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 7 Alsace Grid HS-TB RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 9 up 1 Alsace Grid FA@H RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid MIP RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 Alsace Grid OpenZika RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid SCC RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid MCM RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 5 Alsace Grid ARP RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 Pebor Challenge RT - AP 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 5 From Free-DC Stats Threats - 1 * Opportunities - 1 500 Days out for threats, under 500 for opportunities Looking for a cure. Join our International Team! Andrax: a term that means a total annihilation of a disease. ![]() |
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Johnny Cool
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 28, 2005 Post Count: 8621 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
G'day, Co-Captains (fellow Team Mates)!
----------------------------------------![]() 11 December 2019 What a Long Strange Trip It's Been. Also a name for a song. ![]() Overall WCG Stats Total Run Time (Rank) 5240:312:22:28:03 (#42) Points Generated (Rank) 6,592,891,168 (#47) Results Returned (Rank) 15,817,872 (#43) Daily Team Stats from last refresh: Total Run Time --- Points Generated --- Results Returned 1:011:09:37:53 --- 1,254,141 - 1,774 Brought to you by "Grid Num3ers Fun", a Num3ers Fun Company *TM The biggest and most funniest data corporation on the InterWebs! Top 50s in Total Run Time in stats yesterday/last update RT-56 PG and RR still too erratic: PG-67 RR-66 Free DC-Stats (RT-Total Run Time PG-Points Generated RR-Results Returned) AP - ALL PROJECTS, Plus and Minus symbols +up, -down, etc. All Of Our Team Challenges Here Challenge Name: Challenge Type: Challenge Project: Start Date: End Date: Rank: The Dollars Run Biannual RT AP 10/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 3 December 2019 PG AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 7 December 2019 RR AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 December 2019 RT AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 7 Alsace Grid HS-TB RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 9 up 1 Alsace Grid FA@H RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid MIP RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 Alsace Grid OpenZika RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid SCC RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid MCM RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 5 Alsace Grid ARP RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 Pebor Challenge RT - AP 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 5 From Free-DC Stats Threats - 1 * Opportunities - 1 *33.97 days to overtake* 500 Days out for threats, under 500 for opportunities Looking for a cure. Join our International Team! Andrax: a term that means a total annihilation of a disease. ![]() |
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Johnny Cool
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 28, 2005 Post Count: 8621 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
G'day, Co-Captains (fellow Team Mates)!
----------------------------------------![]() 12 December 2019 For those of you seeing this thread for the first time (or more), please consider joining us. It is more interesting when crunching with a small, yet very dedicated Team like ours. ![]() Overall WCG Stats Total Run Time (Rank) 5241:357:02:20:34 (#42) Points Generated (Rank) 6,594,209,964 (#47) Results Returned (Rank) 15,819,776 (#43) Daily Team Stats from last refresh: Total Run Time --- Points Generated --- Results Returned 1:044:03:52:31 --- 1,318,796 --- 1,904 Brought to you by "Grid Num3ers Fun", a Num3ers Fun Company *TM The biggest and most funniest data corporation on the InterWebs! Top 50s in Total Run Time in stats yesterday/last update RT-49 PG and RR still too erratic: PG-67 RR-66 Free DC-Stats (RT-Total Run Time PG-Points Generated RR-Results Returned) AP - ALL PROJECTS, Plus and Minus symbols +up, -down, etc. All Of Our Team Challenges Here Challenge Name: Challenge Type: Challenge Project: Start Date: End Date: Rank: The Dollars Run Biannual RT AP 10/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 3 December 2019 PG AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 7 December 2019 RR AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 December 2019 RT AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 7 Alsace Grid HS-TB RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 9 up 1 Alsace Grid FA@H RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid MIP RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 Alsace Grid OpenZika RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid SCC RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid MCM RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 5 Alsace Grid ARP RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 Pebor Challenge RT - AP 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 5 From Free-DC Stats Threats - 1 * Opportunities - 1 33.97 days to overtake 500 Days out for threats, under 500 for opportunities Looking for a cure. Join our International Team! Andrax: a term that means a total annihilation of a disease. ![]() |
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Macromancer
Veteran Cruncher United States Joined: Sep 6, 2016 Post Count: 994 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I think the African Research Project (ARP) has been fairly disruptive to other ongoing WCG projects, e.g. MCM
----------------------------------------The long run times and relatively low number of ARP work units available mean that you tie up a processing thread for at least 10hrs and then typically wait in Pending Validation jail for at least 24hr. This delayed points issue wouldn't be a problem if a steady flow of ARP projects was available, but getting one or two WUs every two weeks, means your daily point returned value takes a hit whenever you get a single ARP work unit. Of course, you catch up one or two days later whenever you finally get credit for the ARP unit, but I find this multi-day delay to be annoying. Secondly, it appears that many volunteers are limiting work on other projects in the hopes that they get additional ARP work units. As a result, work units in other projects are sitting in pending jail longer than they were before ARP was launched. This is particularly noticeable in MCM. Obviously, not the end of the world in the scheme of things, but just wanted to put this out there to see what others think. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Macromancer at Dec 12, 2019 4:41:21 PM] |
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Johnny Cool
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I think the African Research Project (ARP) has been fairly disruptive to other ongoing WCG projects, e.g. MCM The long run times and relatively low number of ARP work units available mean that you tie up a processing thread for at least 10hrs and then typically wait in Pending Validation jail for at least 24hr. This delayed points issue wouldn't be a problem if a steady flow of ARP projects was available, but getting one or two WUs every two weeks, means your daily point returned value takes a hit whenever you get a single ARP work unit. Of course, you catch up one or two days later whenever you finally get credit for the ARP unit, but I find this multi-day delay to be annoying. Secondly, it appears that many volunteers are limiting work on other projects in the hopes that they get additional ARP work units. As a result, work units in other projects are sitting in pending jail longer than they were before ARP was launched. This is particularly noticeable in MCM. Obviously, not the end of the world in the scheme of things, but just wanted to put this out there to see what others think. Been wondering what was wrong. Should I stop or any project? I have checked all of them. Thx, Macromancer! G'day, Co-Captains (fellow Team Mates)! ![]() 13 December 2019 Overall WCG Stats Total Run Time (Rank) 5243:018:19:12:23 (#42) (#42) Points Generated (Rank) 6,595,510,642 (#47) Results Returned (Rank) 15,821,696 (#43) Daily Team Stats from last refresh: Total Run Time --- Points Generated --- Results Returned 1:026:16:51:49 --- 1,300,678 --- 1,920 Brought to you by "Grid Num3ers Fun", a Num3ers Fun Company *TM The biggest and most funniest data corporation on the InterWebs! Top 50s in Total Run Time in stats yesterday/last update RT-55 PG and RR still too erratic - Edit: accidently kept same data PG and RR for days Free DC-Stats (RT-Total Run Time PG-Points Generated RR-Results Returned) AP - ALL PROJECTS, Plus and Minus symbols +up, -down, etc. All Of Our Team Challenges Here Challenge Name: Challenge Type: Challenge Project: Start Date: End Date: Rank: The Dollars Run Biannual RT AP 10/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 3 December 2019 PG AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 7 December 2019 RR AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 December 2019 RT AP - 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 7 Alsace Grid HS-TB RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 9 up 1 Alsace Grid FA@H RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid MIP RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 Alsace Grid OpenZika RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid SCC RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 1 Alsace Grid MCM RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 5 Alsace Grid ARP RR 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 8 Pebor Challenge RT - AP 12/01/2019 - 12/31/2019 - 5 From Free-DC Stats Threats - 1 * Opportunities - 1 33.97 days to overtake 500 Days out for threats, under 500 for opportunities Looking for a cure. Join our International Team! Andrax: a term that means a total annihilation of a disease. ![]() |
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adriverhoef
Master Cruncher The Netherlands Joined: Apr 3, 2009 Post Count: 2218 Status: Recently Active Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The long run times and relatively low number of ARP work units available mean that you tie up a processing thread for at least 10hrs and then typically wait in Pending Validation jail for at least 24hr. Waiting for PV for 24 hours? I think this is not (always) true. Here's the proof:Result Name OS AVN Status Sent Time Due / Return Time CPUh Claimed/GrantedHere you see that both results were sent at the same time (13-12-2019, 10:39) to two different computers. Mine is Fedora 30 (result _1), the other one runs Fedora 31 (result _0). You also see that both results must have started almost immediately at their location. (You can tell by looking at their runtimes and their returntimes.) When my result (_1) was returned, I didn't need waiting for validation, because the other result (_0) had already been returned. So, no PV jail in this case. ![]() ![]() Result Name OS OS Version AVN Stat.[Generated by wcgformat] |
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Macromancer
Veteran Cruncher United States Joined: Sep 6, 2016 Post Count: 994 Status: Offline Project Badges: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
@adriverhoef I'm glad that your ARP experience has been good.
I've run 4 ARP jobs to date. Only one was similar to your examples, i.e. short PV jail time. The other three jobs spent at least 24hr in PV jail, with one taking over 4 days to complete b/c the validation failed resulting in a third run to determine the valid result. Additionally, my MCM pending validation queue is at an all time high (e.g. jobs waiting to be checked from December 5 because no result was returned, so the job is rerun on Dec 12, and hopefully that person actually chooses to run MCM rather than cancel jobs in the hope of getting some ARP work units). |
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