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Re: Oddity in BOINC Credit
1. CPU Benchmarks for this machine are:
1/24/2008 10:57:44 AM||Running CPU benchmarks
1/24/2008 10:58:15 AM||Benchmark results:
1/24/2008 10:58:15 AM|| Number of CPUs: 2
1/24/2008 10:58:15 AM|| 2619 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
1/24/2008 10:58:15 AM|| 5829 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
2. Yes, HCC exclusively
3. I haven't but I just did. I'm seeing it at 0 for the HCC tasks, then about every 5 seconds it spikes to 131 and then to 0. I don't know if that's unusually high or not.

Thanks.
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Re: Oddity in BOINC Credit
Hello billroland,
I can't think of anything off the top of my head. So . . . that means I need more information to see if that gives me an idea.

Could you copy the message tab in BOINC from boot through download and sending back a completed work unit? Then add the information from your Results Status page for that work unit.

Lawrence
I'll be happy to get that info for you. I just restarted BOINC prior to reading your post so when I have some data I'll post it up. Thanks.
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Re: Oddity in BOINC Credit
Cloning 'old' setups could have had the nasty effect of the Device record at WCG still thinking that the old machine is on-line. Effective last week a new mechanism was put in place to *not* create a new device if certain conditions were met including the CPU, so tell us what the old CPU and benchmarks were.

Example. If the old machine did a job in 8 hours and the new in 2, the 'claim' could be calculated as against the historic values per second. Maybe if you tell us the device ID (a number in the startup log of BOINC), one of the techs could look it up. Mind you the mechanism should have corrected itself, but seemingly not here.

If you had not hidden your devices in your profile, you could in fact see in places like BOINCstats as what the device is being communicated as (there it does show hidden presently). WCG does not show this in local device pages.

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Re: Oddity in BOINC Credit
Sekerob, that was my first thought, too.

But it is claimed credit that is off the wall, not the granted credit.
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Re: Oddity in BOINC Credit
Cloning 'old' setups could have had the nasty effect of the Device record at WCG still thinking that the old machine is on-line. Effective last week a new mechanism was put in place to *not* create a new device if certain conditions were met including the CPU, so tell us what the old CPU and benchmarks were.

Example. If the old machine did a job in 8 hours and the new in 2, the 'claim' could be calculated as against the historic values per second. Maybe if you tell us the device ID (a number in the startup log of BOINC), one of the techs could look it up. Mind you the mechanism should have corrected itself, but seemingly not here.

If you had not hidden your devices in your profile, you could in fact see in places like BOINCstats as what the device is being communicated as (there it does show hidden presently). WCG does not show this in local device pages.

wild guess.
The old CPU was a Pentium 4 1.3GHz, the new CPU is a Core 2 Duo 2.66GHz. I wouldn't have the slightest idea what the old benchmarks were but I can fathom a guess they were far lower than the Core 2 Duo is reporting now.

I wasn't aware I was hiding any devices nor do I really know what BOINCStats is but I think I found the option to unhide it in the WCG profile editor, so maybe that will help.
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Re: Oddity in BOINC Credit
okay, the www.boincstats.com and other external boinc statistics keepers will show it with the next update. With 10,000 credit in the last day, it must be a few or? I keep them hidden though and you telling what they were, no need to unhide.

The P4-1.3 v C2D 2.66 is close to 5 times the power is my guess.

What is written in the client_state.xml file <p_model> line? The start up log of BOINC should tell the same thing what kind of CPU it thinks it is.
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What is written in the client_state.xml <p_model> line? The start up log of BOINC should tell the same thing.

<p_model>Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11]</p_model>
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Re: Oddity in BOINC Credit
Hello billroland,
I can't think of anything off the top of my head. So . . . that means I need more information to see if that gives me an idea.

Could you copy the message tab in BOINC from boot through download and sending back a completed work unit? Then add the information from your Results Status page for that work unit.

Lawrence

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1/24/2008 11:02:54 AM||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
1/24/2008 11:02:54 AM||Libraries: libcurl/7.17.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
1/24/2008 11:02:54 AM||Executing as a daemon
1/24/2008 11:02:54 AM||Data directory: C:\BOINC
1/24/2008 11:02:55 AM||Processor: 2 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11]
1/24/2008 11:02:55 AM||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 pni mmx
1/24/2008 11:02:55 AM||OS: Microsoft Windows Vista: Professional Edition, (06.00.6000.00)
1/24/2008 11:02:55 AM||Memory: 1.98 GB physical, 4.18 GB virtual
1/24/2008 11:02:55 AM||Disk: 149.05 GB total, 129.68 GB free
1/24/2008 11:02:55 AM||Local time is UTC -5 hours
1/24/2008 11:02:55 AM||Version change (5.10.38 -> 5.10.39)
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1/24/2008 11:02:55 AM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1826.12MB
1/24/2008 11:02:55 AM||Preferences limit disk usage to 3.73GB
1/24/2008 11:02:55 AM||Running CPU benchmarks
1/24/2008 11:03:26 AM||Benchmark results:
1/24/2008 11:03:26 AM|| Number of CPUs: 2
1/24/2008 11:03:26 AM|| 2592 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
1/24/2008 11:03:26 AM|| 5791 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU
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1/24/2008 8:51:56 PM|World Community Grid|Started upload of X0000047030898200502101755_1_0
1/24/2008 8:52:01 PM|World Community Grid|Finished upload of X0000047030898200502101755_1_0
1/24/2008 8:52:51 PM|World Community Grid|Computation for task X0000047030678200502101759_1 finished
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1/24/2008 8:52:51 PM|World Community Grid|Starting task X0000047030663200502242137_0 using hcc1 version 515
1/24/2008 8:52:54 PM|World Community Grid|Started upload of X0000047030678200502101759_1_0
1/24/2008 8:53:00 PM|World Community Grid|Finished upload of X0000047030678200502101759_1_0
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Re: Oddity in BOINC Credit
We can't troubleshoot alpha problems. If you use a test version of BOINC, you have to get support from the BOINC folks.
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Re: Oddity in BOINC Credit
Hello billroland,
Looking at your times just emphasizes how old and slow my computer is. You ought to be claiming about 17.5 to 17.6 BOINC credits per hour of CPU time. If you are not, then the problem is probably on the server, adjusting your claims to match historical performance. Sekerob intends to ask the staff to look at this.

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