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work units with crazy names

Hi there.
Just wondering, what's with the funny names given to some work units? JediPlus being one of them.
and then a few days ago we were doing work units that seemed to work their way through the alphabet, and now we're back to the zinc ones again.
Can anyone maybe a FAH scientist explain what it all means? I'm just curious, thats all.
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JediPlus... hmmm, of course you know that if you bring up the graphics and push the mouse over the main frame, you can play the game of spinning target around at will and create your own view of the docking, or :D
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No, I didn't know that, it's not something I've bothered with, I am totally blind so graphics dont mean anything to me
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Hello whocrazy,
ZINC means that the work unit is generated from the very large Zinc fragment database. I don't know where the JEDI work unit name came from.

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Yes, I've noticed that the zinc ones take a looooong time to complete. what about the others where they all seemed to go through the alphabet? we were doing them about a week ago.
What do they mean?
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Hi whocrazy,

Kudos for being observant!

JEDI stands for compounds Derived from and/or Inspired by JE-2147 (an active site inhibitor). I suppose it also has something to do with the fact that my middle name is Luke. ;)

There will be many, many more work units that involve different ZINC compounds. The people at the ZINC database provide free, well-formatted copies of several different libraries of ligands from the National Cancer Institute (NCI). The NCI Diversity Set has 1,900 different compounds, and the NCI fragment library has 32,000 different compounds. I dock each library against hundreds of different conformations of the drug target (HIV protease). I also use different strains of the target, such as a wild type/normal version and different multi-drug-resistant mutants of HIV protease (that is, the "superbugs"). And I'm docking compounds to two different regions on all of the targets: the active site (where the current drugs bind) and the potential allosteric inhibitor site (a new, potential target that we are trying to validate as a real drug target).

As for the alphabetic names, I am guessing that you are referring to the compounds that had three-letter names (or x and then three other letters), right? Those are three-letter abbreviations for different FDA-approved HIV protease inhibitors (which all bind to the active site). They are being used as reference compounds, to (1) provide a base-line number against which to compare the performance of other compounds, and (2) to help test and refine the computational methods being used.

Thank you very much for your interest and for your help,
Dr. Alex L. Perryman
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Hello again whocrazy,

Oh yeah, the plus part of the name has to do with having an extra proton in that version of the compound, which gives it an extra positive charge.

Another aspect of the alphabet issue:
When I create slightly different versions of compounds and model them on the computer, I sometimes use different letters to signify that they are part of a little series.

Thanks again,
Dr. Alex Perryman (one of the FAAH scientists)


Hi there.
Just wondering, what's with the funny names given to some work units? JediPlus being one of them.
and then a few days ago we were doing work units that seemed to work their way through the alphabet, and now we're back to the zinc ones again.
Can anyone maybe a FAH scientist explain what it all means? I'm just curious, thats all.

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Hi sekerob,

That is so cool!!! I just tried the interactive mode for controlling the target's orientation, and I find it very informative. And it's fun, too.

Thanks for the tip,
Dr. Alex Perryman


JediPlus... hmmm, of course you know that if you bring up the graphics and push the mouse over the main frame, you can play the game of spinning target around at will and create your own view of the docking, or :D

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to clarify a bit:

When I'm docking the NCI Diversity Set of 1,900 compounds to HIV protease or docking small numbers of different reference compounds or new creations, I dock them to thousands of different conformations of the target. When I'm docking the much larger NCI Fragment Library against HIV protease, I tend to just use hundreds of conformations of the target that I selected from interesting regions of the Molecular Dynamics simulations. The MD simulations are used to generate the different shapes that the targets can sample as they wiggle and dance around in a warm water bath.

FYI,
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oh boy. thats just what we need. a mad boffin called luke skywalker. buahahahaha. (jk)
ps: when there is a new work unit downloaded, I like to fire up winrar and view each file of the work unit, IE, like loading up a text file in notepad.
Even though the various numbers and words mean nothing to me, I feel like I am able to get to know the project better by studying each file.
Not too long ago there were these work units with 1 particular file had someone's name and a year IE (1995 or 1993)
You mention docking. How do you actually create these work units. Do you have to manually type them out into a text editor?
it must be a lot of hard work having to type out half a meg worth of numbers, if you get one little thing wrong, the boinc work unit would probably fall over.

faah_protease_5.42.dat
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60
-9.49359 -21.5189 -4.60563
etc.
once again thanks for explaining how it all works.
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