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Results returned milestones report
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newtod returned their 2,600th result applause


Great job newtod!
Retired members report

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Shame, shame on you ... beware of bad Karma wink



For the week as a team:

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11/02/2007 0:156:01:19:52 164,982 573


Good day today!

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The new "Cancer" project seems to run quite well. The run time averages appear to be settling down to around 8-10 hours. So far this project's roll out has gone quite well. Lots of "buzz" in the project forum about whether or not this is actually a "Cancer" project. But then there is always a lot of discussion about new projects and I, for one, think that is a very good thing!!!!

Not much of a day for me. The "Dude" ran over me with a steamroller!! That's great Compudude ... keep it up! Coingames had a good day and Jonathan Figdor keeps climbing the ladder.

The only milestone I can claim today is getting down into the 3K rank for points ... but I will take it!! peace

Cheers!

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I had no idea that there were dustups in the forums! Everyone has been so friendly and nice so far – I thought that was just how things are. As far as the killing in the name of religion thing, that’s one of my main research interests. I’m so curious why people believe what they believe with such fervour that they would kill for those beliefs. Especially when it seems to me like there is no evidence to corroborate one’s beliefs. I think that your comments on abortion and moral absolutism are particularly sage. The issue of abortion is much more subtle than “abortions are good or abortions are bad.” No reasonable proponent of free choice is going to say that abortions are a good thing. And I would hope that no right to lifer would deny a raped woman the right to have an abortion. If you’re interested in the thoughts of an intelligent person of faith, check out Jim Wallis. If you type his name and The Daily Show into google, you’ll get an interview he did with John Stewart of The Daily Show. This Wallis guy is one of the most kind and intelligent people I know. I’m personally an atheist – in part because I have yet to be convinced that there’s a God, and in part because if there’s a God, how can he explain great tragedies like the Holocaust. Anyway, my thoughts are rather jumbled (thanks Seagram 7!) and I need to run, but if you want to talk more about any of these issues, post ‘em up. I’m sure I’ll have an opinion, and hopefully, a more thoughtfully articulated one


Jonathan, an atheist studying for a DTS (hope I got that right). You gotta love the diversity in this world! I have to admit I like the approach Descartes (I believe it was him) took to that question. As I recall, it was (roughly) if I do not believe in God and he exists, I lose; if I believe in God and he does not exist, I have not lost; if I believe in God and he does exist, I win - thus I can only gain from believing in God.

How you perceive the nature of God defines how many questions get answered. I think many of the answers for the "great" truths are reflected in the universe as it exists. God does not cause the great tragedies but he must allow them to happen just as a parent cannot prevent the mistakes of their child. Denying the child the right to make mistakes denies them choice and the chance to grow. To decide is to kill. A decision is a choice between two or more things. Choosing one denys ("kills") the other(s). Decisions have consequences. Growth arises from the consequences of our decisions.

I suspect continued discussion may be best offline (email) as, while I welcome discussion in our team thread, I also do not want to digress it greatly from the purpose at hand.
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Well, time to "come down off the mountain" (before the thin air gets to me biggrin). It looks like the population in my PV jail is declining. I can't help but notice that it seems like this 201 batch of DDDT WUs seem to have a very high probability of spending any and more time there than the average WU. Could just be me though. I do hope the apparent current trend for the team continues as we do seem to be establishing ourselves at a new level of performance. Hope everyone has a great weekend!

Hey, has anyone ever noticed how the gurus on the mountain tops are always on the top of very pointy mountains? At least in the comics anyway. That has to be rough on the hiney! laughing Geez, I think the question of how they keep from sliding down the side of the mountain is one question I just as soon leave unanswered. wink
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Since I don't have your email, I'll throw out my last few thoughts in the forum and if they're too far afield of the forum's subject matter, feel free to delete them. My degree is actually and MTS (Masters in Theological Studies). Harvard offers two masters in religion degrees, the MTS (mine) and the MDiv (mostly for those who will pursue ordination in a religious organisation). I plan to get a PhD in philosophy later, so I don't think I'm likely to get ordained.

As far as Descartes goes, his argument is called "The Wager." What it suggests is that the benefits of belief in God far outweigh the possible consequences of Hell if one does not believe. The problem is that it creates a rather poor faith. Imagine going up to the pearly gates and meeting St. Peter (someone's gotta correct me if I'm wrong on names). He asks why you believed in God and you answer "Well, the benefits outweighed the harms." I doubt he would be pleased. Now imagine that you are an unbeliever like myself (but a good unbeliever, one who volunteers and generally tries to alleviate human suffering) and you find yourself in the same position. I would say to St. Peter "I led my life by humanist principles. Didn't Jesus say "That you do to the least of these (referring to the poor and the sick), you do to me?" And besides, there simply wasn't enough evidence that God exists." I don't think that believers are irrational - I just think that there is no knowledge about the existence or non-existence of God. All we have are our opinions. And opinions are like... you know everyone has one. The point is, I lost track of my point a while back there. If you're really interested in this theology stuff, I just published an article entitled "God and 'The Problem of Evil.'" If you would like, I can email it to you.

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Jonathan, an atheist studying for a DTS (hope I got that right). You gotta love the diversity in this world! I have to admit I like the approach Descartes (I believe it was him) took to that question. As I recall, it was (roughly) if I do not believe in God and he exists, I lose; if I believe in God and he does not exist, I have not lost; if I believe in God and he does exist, I win - thus I can only gain from believing in God.

How you perceive the nature of God defines how many questions get answered. I think many of the answers for the "great" truths are reflected in the universe as it exists. God does not cause the great tragedies but he must allow them to happen just as a parent cannot prevent the mistakes of their child. Denying the child the right to make mistakes denies them choice and the chance to grow. To decide is to kill. A decision is a choice between two or more things. Choosing one denys ("kills") the other(s). Decisions have consequences. Growth arises from the consequences of our decisions.

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Since I don't have your email


Keith's email is available at the bottom of his posts ... just like I found yours. wink

Heck, I am enjoying the recent discussions in the team form. Most of the time our thread is "Dead as Heaven on a Saturday Night" (Lenoard Cohen) biggrin

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So, in case you haven't all figured this out yet, I am technically retarded and am speeding towards the career path of "Absent-Minded Professor" at an alarming rate.

Since I don't have your email


Keith's email is available at the bottom of his posts ... just like I found yours. wink

Heck, I am enjoying the recent discussions in the team form. Most of the time our thread is "Dead as Heaven on a Saturday Night" (Lenoard Cohen) biggrin

Chat it up!

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I hope everyone is having a great weekend. It is a beautiful day here in the Sierra foothills!!

Don't forget, where applicable in the USA, to set your clocks back one hour tonight. You get an extra hour but the dark comes early. biggrin

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MyOnlineTeam Daily Statistics for 11/03 - All Members:

Team rank movement report
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Prior New Current
Member name Rank Change Rank Points
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kkelson 49 -1 50 820,488
AStafford 50 +1 49 821,249
Sunny L. Kae 67 -1 68 528,310
swordfishradio 68 -1 69 526,532
Dataman 69 +2 67 530,917
barney15c 109 -1 110 211,469
Bon Kuhlman 110 +1 109 211,862
John Conrad 112 -1 113 205,822
elpe 113 +1 112 205,900
Maddogstl 133 -1 134 146,290
Hintsala 134 +1 133 146,645
Furraymurray 196 -1 197 47,267
nsmartin 197 -1 198 46,999
John Kinsworthy 198 -1 199 46,746
Bravehart 199 -1 200 45,746
Lundberg 200 -1 201 44,899
HarvDog 201 -1 202 44,202
Octavius 202 -1 203 42,476
WayneOldfield 203 -1 204 42,441
Jonathan Figdor 204 +8 196 47,427

Points milestones report
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spikey_richie reached 1,500,000 points applause

Runtime milestones report
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parmesian reached 25 years of runtime applause

Results returned milestones report
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wrr returned their 1,400th result applause
Jonathan Figdor returned their 100th result applause

New members report
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No new members found. sad

Retired members report
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No new retired members found. smile

For the week as a team:

Statistics  Total Run Time  Points   Results
Date (y:d:h:m:s) Earned Returned
11/03/2007 0:159:18:05:40 169,606 535
11/02/2007 0:156:01:19:52 164,982 573
11/01/2007 0:143:15:11:30 156,744 567
10/31/2007 0:134:00:21:36 143,415 514
10/30/2007 0:150:08:58:07 159,065 539
10/29/2007 0:141:19:57:50 153,158 437
10/28/2007 0:145:04:31:27 164,989 407


Team Records:
Results Returned: 08/24/2005 1,609
Points: 06/26/2007 334,880
Runtime: 01/25/2006 1:123:00:53:34

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MyOnlineTeam Daily Statistics for 11/03 - Active Members

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Current Points
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CompuDude 1 0 15,353,265 7,743
nl59056 2 0 13,624,432 5,337
marysduby 3 0 11,359,282 34,612
Ploetner 4 0 9,059,048 735
Esteban69 5 0 6,754,070 4,456
parmesian 6 0 6,072,938 13,019
Graham 7 0 3,996,198 979
cyberwire 8 0 3,941,966 754
Coingames 9 0 3,199,481 3,661
Fanie 10 0 2,484,728 7,971
frans6nl 11 0 2,476,223 6,537
PohSoon 12 0 2,260,578 4,946
joshuabayer 13 0 2,086,814 575
Rasse 14 0 1,809,412 0
Vuj 15 0 1,687,078 3,790
Silver Surfer 16 0 1,587,092 9,979
Dave Bell 17 0 1,576,110 7,457
spikey_richie 18 0 1,501,261 2,709
Neumonic 19 0 1,491,972 4,286
Alain Bryden 20 0 1,406,847 2,590
lawrencehardin 21 0 1,399,538 619
MikeOD 22 0 1,254,797 0
siseberg 23 0 1,234,944 888
bl1nxz 24 0 1,179,079 0
txjallen 25 0 1,146,048 278
John Parker 26 0 1,142,250 326
Wunderwuzzi 27 0 1,102,800 1,918
largethunder 28 0 1,078,112 67
smcclarigan 29 0 977,698 431
charlie99 30 0 958,252 0
keithhenry 31 0 912,304 4,188
finman 32 0 882,164 1,042
Johnwoods 33 0 877,771 634
AStafford 34 +1 821,249 883
kkelson 35 -1 820,488 0
newtod 36 0 786,603 891
Tomwp 37 0 756,885 1,573
SteelDragon 38 0 739,213 679
Pandas Dad 39 0 537,053 868
Dataman 40 +1 530,917 11,988
Sunny L. Kae 41 -1 528,310 833
laughing66607 42 0 448,016 0
JerBlock 43 0 447,012 0
Edward McCoy 44 0 434,280 548
SAKU1303 45 0 425,744 0
Barramundi 46 0 410,008 0
Airwolf_Liu 47 0 383,599 0
dtype 48 0 365,191 0
wrr 49 0 363,495 706
sulcata 50 0 337,037 2,751
Blueprint 51 0 313,660 764
simonbendall 52 0 308,859 0
Mr. Plates 53 0 307,741 0
RetiredPB 54 0 248,872 153
Arthur256 55 0 226,807 1,934
Bon Kuhlman 56 +1 211,862 1,230
barney15c 57 -1 211,469 520
elpe 58 +1 205,900 478
John Conrad 59 -1 205,822 97
Lanscader 60 0 188,316 1
johng 61 0 177,058 933
amusic20 62 0 176,371 496
Verhaegh 63 0 159,495 0
shinob925 64 0 158,856 537
Hintsala 65 0 146,645 665
mapplebeck 66 0 136,954 0
harry_i_c 67 0 134,404 575
cknotty 68 0 133,788 0
Calamity 69 0 129,669 0
lenmccart 70 0 120,503 383
dub4u 71 0 106,926 0
shawnangelo 72 0 95,120 0
jan.fratric 73 0 92,178 0
xZeddx 74 0 91,679 0
Dean Mullins 75 0 88,815 0
Harry de Swart 76 0 85,742 0
madambaster 77 0 78,842 0
Natalino 78 0 78,815 0
platinumbus177 79 0 75,778 0
Jonathan Figdor 80 0 47,427 6,129
Daragaaz 81 0 21,089 0
sammercer 82 0 20,145 0
WoytaZ 83 0 18,527 464
Silbo 84 0 8,931 0


Note: Active members are those who earned points in the prior 30 days.

Top Ten active members returning points today:
01: marysduby - 34,612 points
02: parmesian - 13,019 points
03: Dataman - 11,988 points
04: Silver Surfer - 9,979 points
05: Fanie - 7,971 points
06: CompuDude - 7,743 points
07: Dave Bell - 7,457 points
08: frans6nl - 6,537 points
09: Jonathan Figdor - 6,129 points
10: nl59056 - 5,337 points

Total points returned today: 169,606
Active members returning points today: 55
Average points per member active today: 3083.74545
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We have having the start of quite a notable weekend. Special congratulations to spikey_richie for reaching 1,500,000 points! parmesian has completed crunching for 25 years today! Our points continue to grow despite our settling back down into the mid to upper 50s for members returning results. Also, we are less than 130,000 points from another major milestone. Stay tuned to find out more tomorrow! biggrin
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