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Will some optimisations of models be done?

a question: is it planed to make some optimisations of models in the future, for example, deploying SSE?

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Re: Will some optimisations of models be done?

suguhirahara,

this must be one of your fav. questions. Its entirely dependent on whether the project developers make use of these technologies during the design stage. BOINC is now able to report the features of a CPU, but there are still loads of folk running on 5.4. It will require to run quorum distributions to identically featured CPU's, not only OS which makes the homogeneous redundancy a tad more complex.

Running multiple projects like WCG and on multiple platforms (5) requires lots of effort, so i suppose if a project was build with certain features in mind, eventually things will evolve to start make use of them at WCG, but not heard of anything in the planning.
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Re: Will some optimisations of models be done?

this must be one of your fav. questions.

Yup, I've questioned that already, then made it clear wink

It's entirely dependent on whether the project developers make use of these technologies during the design stage.

@ project leaders: Have you designed AfricanClimate@Home, considering about any optimisations?

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Re: Will some optimisations of models be done?

Hello suguruhirahara,
Each additional type of CPU we compile for requires a separate bin on the server. All 64-bit x86 cpus have SSE, SSE2 etc. so if we ever start compiling for 64-bit Operating Systems, we will include all these compile-time optimizations. Even so, until most computers are running 64-bit, it will not make much sense for the programmer to include the special program design work that uses these features most efficiently. It takes more than setting a compiler flag to really use these features. The programmer has to redesign the algorithm a bit.

So it is coming, but probably not in the immediate future.

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Re: Will some optimisations of models be done?

until most computers are running 64-bit, it will not make much sense for the programmer to include the special program design work that uses these features most efficiently. It takes more than setting a compiler flag to really use these features. The programmer has to redesign the algorithm a bit.

So it is coming, but probably not in the immediate future.

Lawrence

Thanks for the quick answer :)

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Re: Will some optimisations of models be done?


@ project leaders: Have you designed AfricanClimate@Home, considering about any optimisations?

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Hello,

Sorry we missed your question before.

When we say that our goal is to develop better climate models for Africa what we have in mind is to improve the results used in climate change studies (by 'tweaking' the model in the right places). We certainly can benefit from better computational performance of these models, but for us they are just tools for a comprehension of the earth climate system.
There are several computer science experts working on these models worldwide and we can certainly benefit from their work (we do, eventually)

Thanks for the interest in this research
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@ project leaders: Have you designed AfricanClimate@Home, considering about any optimisations?

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suguruhirahara


Hello,

Sorry we missed your question before.

When we say that our goal is to develop better climate models for Africa what we have in mind is to improve the results used in climate change studies (by 'tweaking' the model in the right places). We certainly can benefit from better computational performance of these models, but for us they are just tools for a comprehension of the earth climate system.
There are several computer science experts working on these models worldwide and we can certainly benefit from their work (we do, eventually)

Thanks for the interest in this research

Thanks for your reply! It is always great when the project scientists take an active interest in the user forums, it adds a lot to my interest in a project!
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