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no violent images -- no cross recruiting

Peace,

To all,

I addition to my objecting (and asking the WCG administration to remove -- which they refused) to the violent and humorless picture of a cat being held at gun point, I object the the duplicity in the following:

The Team Islam thread was titled "Please Join Islam", but the WCG administration re-wrote the thread title to be "Please Join Team Islam". Now, when I objected to the words "join the Christians" in the thread for Team Islam, the administration refused to remove the slogan. I find this duplicity typical of what Muslims are confronted.

If you have a signature that is in violtion of the "no recruting in other team thread' policy, then do not post in other teams.

To Admin,
This Team Islam thread has been uterly destroyed. Since you refuse to fix it (as the SEC requires), I intend to abaondon it and start a new Team Islam thread.

May God grant us non-violent images and no cross recruiting in the Muslim Team thread.

Clay Chip Smith

PS: this "Carl" person gave me various tacit threats, yesterday in email.
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Re: no violent images -- no cross recruiting

Peace,

Now, when I objected to the words "join the Christians" in the thread for Team Islam, the administration refused to remove the slogan.


So when you complained and said Ady's sig with the cat offended you that was a lie. Was really the link to the Christians team that offended you. Doesn't take a genius to figure out why.



PS: this "Carl" person gave me various tacit threats, yesterday in email.


This Carl person sent me a copy of the email yesterday. Were no threats in it. It didn't contain anything I wouldn't like to say to you at this moment for your ****treatment of Ady.


BTW Ady has helped many on this site when he didn't have to. Where are they now. Only a few speak out for Ady. Even a girl has more **** than the majority here.

Edited for inappropriate language TKH
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Re: no violent images -- no cross recruiting

This was received via mail from Clay in reply to me showing him what Islamicity his link had told me.........




----- Original Message -----
From: Clay Chip Smith
To: Carl
Cc: icSupport@islamicity.com ; icmembership@islamicity.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 2:49 PM
Subject: *** SPAM *** Question -- follow up


Peace be upon you and mercy of Allah.

To get an applicable Fatwa, you must present applicable facts:

1. The post included the words "click here to join the Christians" -- not an attractive admonition to Muslims.
2. No modern rulings: Please, the classical opinion related to images not of a documentary nature -- only a fraction of Muslims choose to follow modern opinions that contradict classical opinions.
3. The thread was dedicated to Muslims -- bringing violent and abusive images into a "Muslim friendly" thread is simply Makrooh (hated by God).
4. There is a rule in the WCG of "no recruiting to other teams" -- the post violated this.
5. The WCG ruled against the words "Join Islam" in the Team Islam thread, but ruled in favor of "Join Christians" in the Team Islam thread -- this was a bigoted act.

Is you wish to know if these Islamic City folks are Progressive or Orthodox, then ask them if Beards are Wajib and if Hijab is Fard and et cetera.

May Allah Guide us to do Good Deeds
Clay Chip Smith
Clay@Clay.Smith.name www.Clay.Smith.name
السلام عليكم


----- Original Message -----
From: Carl
To: clay@clay.smith.name
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 2:07 AM
Subject: Fw: [?? Probable Spam] RE: Question



----- Original Message -----
From: icSupport@islamicity.com
To: carl@teddies.be
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:50 PM
Subject: [?? Probable Spam] RE: Question


Hi Carl,

As far as we know in Islam there is no specific ruling on that kind of image. Yes we do humor, there are many Muslim comedian some of them that quite popular in US Muslim are "Allah made me funny" and "ahmed-ahmed" . So in this case the avatar is perfectly fine, however just let you know Muslims is prefer to have cats as pets rather than dogs. Maybe the person felt offended because the cat, or probably because this the image look "violent". In our opinion you can keep the avatar, however IC forum moderator may have different opinion, and usually we don't interfere their decision.

Thanks,

IslamiCity


----- Original Message -----
From: Carl
To: icmembership@islamicity.com
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 1:16 PM
Subject: Question


Dear Sir,
One of your members recently said the following avatar was offensive to Islam and offended him on an international forum.



The rest of the World see`s the humour in this and he has offended a lot of people by stating this humouress pose is offensive and asking Moderators to remove it.The man is one of the best in the World and has held this avatar for years.

Can you clarify that this is offensive ? Does Islam have humour ?

I ask this question in all honesty and I am lacking complete knowledge of Islam. Thankyou in advance for your attention.

Carl


Sorry but the man is trouble with a capital T, even going against his own. He`s now issuing Fatwa`s against......Who ? WCG ? Ady ? Me ?

PS. No threats were issued by myself at any point if he feels he has been threatened I ask he take it up with the authorities. That said private email has nothing to do with WCG .
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Re: no violent images -- no cross recruiting

claychipsmith, signatures are exempt from the "no recruiting in other team threads" rule. You are more than welcome to promote team Islam in your own signature. Signatures aren't exempt from any other rules, though. Signatures have been removed in the past when they contain offensive language.

You may be wondering "why are signatures exempt from the recruiting rule?" - and that's a good question. Way back when WCG was young, there was some discussion about this. Eventually, it was determined that promoting one's team in a signature was a sensible, natural place to mention teams, and it wasn't actively recruiting. So long as nobody takes offence about the mentioning of other teams, then there is no problem.

I'm sorry this controversy has once again destroyed your team thread.
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Re: no violent images -- no cross recruiting

Don`t you love apologist`s...excuse me for breathing !

He`s talking Fatwa`s and your sorry.... ROFLMAO.... biggrin

Wonder`s if anyone apologised to Ady ? Cos he feels offended !

Note how he CC`ed to Islamicity the above post, intending to do what ? Spread the good word about WCG ?
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Re: no violent images -- no cross recruiting

It is not 'this controversy' that destroyed the thread it is total intolarance of the thread originator that destroyed it. Still, what can you exect from a religion that executes people for converting to christianity....
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Re: no violent images -- no cross recruiting

This thread has now been locked as a new team thread has been started.

Please remember to abide by the forum rules and not hijack a thread or display intolerence of others. Thank you.
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