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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
You have the wrong end of the stick.... he's faking the available memory so that he gets work units AT ALL. Not an advisable thing to do unless you don't mind a lot of swapping and you don't want to use the machine for anything else. That's all the one with 128MB is used for and it's crunching away...slowly...but still crunching  |
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7849 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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OK, Now you have raised my curiosity. How much actual RAM do you have ? To what did you raise the setting? What processor ? How long does an average WU take ?
----------------------------------------Bye the way, I have a PII, 397mhz, 128 RAM, W2K. It takes about 34 hours to crunch a FAAH unit, but it does work. Cheers
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
OK, Now you have raised my curiosity. How much actual RAM do you have ? To what did you raise the setting? What processor ? How long does an average WU take ? Bye the way, I have a PII, 397mhz, 128 RAM, W2K. It takes about 34 hours to crunch a FAAH unit, but it does work. Cheers I've got a P4 with 128MB RAM, 1.7Ghz. It runs WinXP and I raised the setting to 1GB of virtual memory. FAAH WUs take about 11 hours [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jul 21, 2007 6:43:59 PM] |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
There are good reasons why WCG insists on certain minima. Pure crunchers may be happy with impairment (there's none on pure crunch machines) and find ways to tweak around, but regular 'idle time' contributors who run the 'minimum impact' profile would not.
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7849 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Fully understand why minima are set. However, the low end machines would be junked out if not crunching. Nobody in their right mind(or left mind for that matter) would try to do anything else on this type machine unless they have much patience and like waiting. Just bringing up the browser makes the swap file go nuts. So it is left to just pure crunching.
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Sgt. Joe
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davidhobbs
Senior Cruncher England Joined: Dec 30, 2004 Post Count: 152 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Sgt Joe is absolutely right,
----------------------------------------I have a stack of 22 P3 x 450MHz machines now shut down since the Genome Comparison project ended. They are old and slow (although I can remember when they were lightning fast!) but crunch reliably. The choice now is to aim them at the nearest landfill hole or wait and see if another suitable project comes along. David. [Edit 1 times, last edit by davidhobbs at Jul 22, 2007 9:29:15 AM] |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
There's a balance here. The old and slow machines are often so old and slow that you could replace half a dozen of them with a single bottom of the range cut price PC bought today. The energy cost that you will save will make up for the initial purchase price in just a few months of crunching.
You would have to run the numbers to find out exactly how much benefit there is for you, and how long it will take for the upgrade to pay for itself. And by "landfill" I hope you mean "electronics recycling center". ;-) |
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davidhobbs
Senior Cruncher England Joined: Dec 30, 2004 Post Count: 152 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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Yes I do mean Electronics Recycling Centre,
... but I suspect that in turn is merely a posh name for a landfill agent! David. |
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retsof
Former Community Advisor USA Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Post Count: 6824 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Yes I do mean Electronics Recycling Centre, I had an old Dell with problems. I took it to a computer store which turned it into an AMD64 cruncher and reused the standard components. ... but I suspect that in turn is merely a posh name for a landfill agent! David. On the other hand, some of these may be toooo sloooow. Goodwill Computerworks takes donations... As for the topic of the thread, UD will only be around for FAAH and HPF2 for as long as they last. Future projects will only be set up on BOINC.
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JmBoullier
Former Community Advisor Normandy - France Joined: Jan 26, 2007 Post Count: 3716 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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As for the topic of the thread, UD will only be around for FAAH and HPF2 for as long as they last. Future projects will only be set up on BOINC. Ah! Plans are more and more clear! Cheers. Jean. |
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