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Downloading units

I have my profile to "Connect to network about every 3.5 days " I thought this was supposed to keep a constant que of 3.5 days worth of work. How come I have been able to return numerous completed works, yet have not downloaded any more units into the que? Right now I have only 2 days worth of work units qued up on my machine.
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Re: Downloading units

here is the messages I get when I try to update.

3/30/2007 6:19:48 PM||Starting BOINC client version 5.8.15 for windows_intelx86
3/30/2007 6:19:48 PM||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
3/30/2007 6:19:48 PM||Libraries: libcurl/7.16.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8a zlib/1.2.3
3/30/2007 6:19:48 PM||Data directory: C:\BOINC
3/30/2007 6:19:48 PM||Processor: 1 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ [x86 Family 15 Model 47 Stepping 2] [fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 3dnow mmx]
3/30/2007 6:19:48 PM||Memory: 894.48 MB physical, 3.24 GB virtual
3/30/2007 6:19:48 PM||Disk: 182.14 GB total, 157.17 GB free
3/30/2007 6:19:48 PM|World Community Grid|URL: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID: 144535; location: (none); project prefs: default
3/30/2007 6:19:48 PM||General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 2007-03-30 14:20:41)
3/30/2007 6:19:48 PM||Host location: none
3/30/2007 6:19:48 PM||General prefs: using your defaults
3/30/2007 6:19:49 PM|World Community Grid|Restarting task la212_00004_2 using hpf2 version 518
3/30/2007 6:55:41 PM|World Community Grid|Computation for task la212_00004_2 finished
3/30/2007 6:55:41 PM|World Community Grid|Starting la211_00084_2
3/30/2007 6:55:41 PM|World Community Grid|Starting task la211_00084_2 using hpf2 version 518
3/30/2007 6:55:43 PM|World Community Grid|[file_xfer] Started upload of file la212_00004_2_0
3/30/2007 6:55:50 PM|World Community Grid|[file_xfer] Finished upload of file la212_00004_2_0
3/30/2007 6:55:50 PM|World Community Grid|[file_xfer] Throughput 34704 bytes/sec
3/30/2007 6:57:10 PM|World Community Grid|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
3/30/2007 6:57:10 PM|World Community Grid|Reporting 1 tasks
3/30/2007 6:57:15 PM|World Community Grid|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509]
3/30/2007 6:57:15 PM|World Community Grid|Deferring communication for 5 min 3 sec
3/30/2007 6:57:15 PM|World Community Grid|Reason: requested by project
3/30/2007 7:34:14 PM|World Community Grid|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
3/30/2007 7:34:14 PM|World Community Grid|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks)
3/30/2007 7:34:19 PM|World Community Grid|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509]
3/30/2007 7:34:19 PM||General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 2007-03-30 19:05:43)
3/30/2007 7:34:19 PM||Host location: none
3/30/2007 7:34:19 PM||General prefs: using your defaults
3/30/2007 7:34:19 PM|World Community Grid|Deferring communication for 5 min 3 sec
3/30/2007 7:34:19 PM|World Community Grid|Reason: requested by project
3/30/2007 7:34:54 PM|World Community Grid|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
3/30/2007 7:34:54 PM|World Community Grid|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks)
3/30/2007 7:34:59 PM|World Community Grid|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509]
3/30/2007 7:34:59 PM|World Community Grid|Deferring communication for 5 min 3 sec
3/30/2007 7:34:59 PM|World Community Grid|Reason: requested by project
3/30/2007 7:35:15 PM|World Community Grid|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user
3/30/2007 7:35:15 PM|World Community Grid|(not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks)
3/30/2007 7:35:20 PM|World Community Grid|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509]
3/30/2007 7:35:20 PM|World Community Grid|Deferring communication for 5 min 3 sec
3/30/2007 7:35:20 PM|World Community Grid|Reason: requested by project
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Re: Downloading units

It's going to take a while before BOINC has a good idea of how much work to queue. Give it a week....
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Re: Downloading units

What do you mean? are you saying BOINC has to learn how much work my computer can handle?
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Re: Downloading units

Yes. How did you think it works out how much work to download?
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Re: Downloading units

It does have the column "to completion". I figured it added up this column. For instance, if the to completion column has 6, 12 hour units, then you have 3 days of work. My “to completion” column has 5, 11 1/3 hour units and a 6. This equates to 2.6 days. The funny thing is that the 11+ units are only taking my computer 7.5 hours to complete. I thought there was a problem with BOINC not reading my computer accurately. I will give it a couple of more days and see what happens.
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Re: Downloading units

Please visit the 'Work Buffer' page of the Unofficial BOINC Wiki on the logic and algorithm that goes into the 'strategy', that arrives at X work. You'll discover that the only way to maximize the size is to run 24/7. E.g. if the real progress is less than the computed ability per benchmark, the DCF takes effect. That includes time e.g. when your machine is not computing, either off or not because you've chosen for it not to compute during 'busy', or because you've set the CPU resource allocation to lower than 100%. Each time a WU is completed, the past performance is extrapolated onto the work already buffered, thus you see the TTC for a WU down the end of the Task list change as it nears start time.

A future point release, possible BOINC 5.8.17 or 18 (Windows) will have a modification that actually splits the 'Connect To' from the 'Task Buffer' size. The end result will though still be, that one can never hog more work than BOINC computes from current and past progress.
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Re: Downloading units

I thought there was a problem with BOINC not reading my computer accurately. I will give it a couple of more days and see what happens.
BOINC doesn't have any problem reading it. I have found that some projects make different use of it, or don't estimate very well. WCG seems to be fairly close. On the other hand, others can be wildly different. Project Neuron estimated 12 hours and I finished the workunit in 2 minutes. QMC estimates 680 hours, and I finished one in three hours. After several workunits, those projects show no improvement in estimating capability. There is another disadvantage in that they screw up the queue, preventing download of OTHER workunits until they are finished, uploaded and reported.
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Re: Downloading units

retsof, that is why each project has its own (R)DCF, so BOINC accounts for incorrect estimates. As long as the 'incorrect' estimate is consistent in %, BOINC over time should learn to deal with it. It becomes difficult with those non-deterministic calculations..... one moment they flush thru in 4 hours, the next in 8.... havoc.

Such a dreary subject for the Sunday night....... i'm sure if Dave throws a tumbledryer at it (or is it whirldryer), it would be fixed soon.... ROFL.
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