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Thread: Yup Here it is. the inevitable post on the way the Points are alloted. |
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Drop Out
Cruncher Joined: Dec 29, 2004 Post Count: 3 Status: Offline |
OK! first I want t say I respect all your systems your donating!
----------------------------------------No matter how slowwww! I see the need to give to slow one some incentive. Then I see the guy that gets to use an old network SLAM points past everyone. I say some of us see thru that. AND (Pardon me but) their are those that don't or couldn't notice of the MATH were changed. I know that to the GRID, result are the ONLY thing that matters My issue is for the members that have the Fastest computers. (I know....Whaaaa!) We spend Huge for our systems and overclock them to speed up the grid and we get no respect? Will this be fixed? I have four extra fans to run! My power bill is as much as a stock computers for each result is it not? (would the grid say"you spend more for each result --your issue"?) So I want (in good time) an adjustment to the point "ratios' to represent MY/OUR actual contributions. Or to say it short- 160 average points for a rocket fast machine is not OK if the slower ones get 900! I put on a rocket that averages 130 points per! My old cranky machines get HUGE point numbers compared. The fast one blasts way more results too. At first I thought it was the long proteans. But the averages are way off. I say the math is wrong. I can't do the math. if I could I would offer MY "scale or ratio' that I figured. So stay on topic and be nice  OH and join Quitters!  Edited spelling  [Edit 1 times, last edit by Drop Out at Dec 31, 2004 4:59:15 AM] |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Sorry you feel that way. If you read the description of the point system in http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/join_now/points_system.html , you will see that it is quite honest that there is a cap that ensures no one may get more than twice the points of the reference system.
While any individual parameter can overachieve the corresponding parameter for World Community Grid Comparison Device by any level, no work unit completed by any machine will earn more than twice the total number of points World Community Grid Comparison Device would earn for that same work unit. The World Community Grid tries to make everone feel needed because they really are. The World Community Grid is intended to handle problems requiring millions of CPU hours that would require an astronomically large budget on the part of a research organization to handle in-house. We need the help of people with $60 CPU chips just as we do those with $600 CPU chips, and we do not want to discourage them. |
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Drop Out
Cruncher Joined: Dec 29, 2004 Post Count: 3 Status: Offline |
Welcome! lawrencehardin
----------------------------------------(Oh thats right it was Drop Out's first Posts not yours LOL) This quote here is yours. I posted my responce below this Quote. Sorry you feel that way. If you read the description of the point system in http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/join_now/points_system.html you will see that it is quite honest that there is a cap that ensures no one may get more than twice the points of the reference system. While any individual parameter can overachieve the corresponding parameter for World Community Grid Comparison Device by any level, no work unit completed by any machine will earn more than twice the total number of points World Community Grid Comparison Device would earn for that same work unit. The World Community Grid tries to make everyone feel needed because they really are. The World Community Grid is intended to handle problems requiring millions of CPU hours that would require an astronomically large budget on the part of a research organization to handle in-house. We need the help of people with $60 CPU chips just as we do those with $600 CPU chips, and we do not want to discourage them. -lawrencehardin Sorry you didn't understand my Post as made. You missed my/the point by a mile in the opposite direction. In fact I can't be sure you read my post, from reading your post. I will re-post/edit some here to try again. If you still don't get it....  The FIRST thing you missed was my respect slower members.... OK! first I want t say I respect all your systems your donating! No matter how slowwww! I see the need to give to slow ones some incentive. I am too well acquainted with the "points_system.html" page. My Issue is restated here So I want (in good time) an adjustment to the point "ratios' to represent MY/OUR actual contributions. Or to say it short- 160 average points per/result for a rocket fast machine is not OK! ->if the slower ones gets an average of 900 points per/result! It's NOT FAIR! (.) I put on a rocket that averages 130 points per! My old cranky machines get HUGE point numbers compared. The fast one blasts way more results too! At first I thought it was the long proteans. But the averages are way off. I say the math is wrong. I am trying to open a discussion on points Ratios. It's not rocket science, nor an attack the Grid. K? [Edit 2 times, last edit by Drop Out at Dec 31, 2004 6:16:51 AM] |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
No problem. I just mis-read your emphasis. Umm... You know, the Stats pages do let you see your standing in terms of Results. There can be quite a difference between rankings according to Points and rankings according to Results.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
i dont understand this either or whatever on our team one member has 18582 points but 79 results
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Hi
Check out the Points Per Result (PPR) In these Country links. (The PPR is little below the middle of each page.) CHINA Poor China too many fast computers! Venezuela my team little was only averaging 284 Zimbabwe We are like the start of any World Community. Even if it actually works out, how could you explain it? This is a fine system. I just feel is has some "Important to me",  Details to work out like if a re evaluation of the "Ratios" means retro fit of the old scores or just starting from the moment. Or scratch  I think we need some Fresh Ideas or Facts posted here Robert |
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David Autumns
Ace Cruncher UK Joined: Nov 16, 2004 Post Count: 11062 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Hi all
----------------------------------------The bottom line is that points are the best measure of your contribution to WCG. Work Units can take 1 hour 15 mins Work Units can take 2 Weeks it just luck of the draw. So the stat you're interesting in is the number of points your machine gets per hour. Multiply this by 24 and thats how many points you will get per day big or small work unit. Like you say average points per work unit isn't fair as you might have 1 that last 100 hours whereas someone else gets 10 10hour WU's Your PC is benchmarked at the end of each Work Unit to work out your CPU score for the next WU. If you are playing Doom 3 at the time most of your power will go to Doom 3 and the scraps that are left will go to WCG so your score will be lower for the next workunit. To get the most points first set your Storage Space in your device profile to be 10Gb. This has no effect except on your point allocation, you get more! - even if you don't have 10Gb spare on your disk. Don't let the screensaver run moving that lovely picture of a folding protein molecule around your screen costs CPU time. Stop watching the pretty protein molecule under the i button this is a waste of time for the processor. Close down all those apps that infest your system tray Quicktime, iTuneshelper. Remove all screensavers and to save the planet a bit while this is all going on set your screen timeout to be a max of 20 Mins. Then sit back put on the coffee and watch your points rise as you contribute to WCG. All the best Dave  [Edit 1 times, last edit by David Autumns at Jan 10, 2005 11:53:38 PM] |
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