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Re: Long-running HPF2 task

dseto,

As alluded earlier in this thread, we need ALL 19 results as each is unique! If a work unit (WU) made progress and stops making any for a long time, specifically HPF2, suspend the WCG (in the project tab), wait a little and resume WCG. Usually this makes the HPF2 start to move again!

If you ABORT a work unit, a new copy will be send to another computer until we have 19 valid work units. If at 70%, it's probably on restart resuming at maybe 50%.... it varies!

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Re: Long-running HPF2 task

Sekerob

Just to let you know I have NEVER aborted a work unit.

Also I did not know you needed all 19 results I thought you only needed 15 for a Quorum?

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Re: Long-running HPF2 task

I paused the WU, waited about 30 minutes... restarted it but it continues at the same point (70.190%) and no progress whatsoever...

Processing time: 70:30 hours, time to completion: 22 hours...
WU filename: lb927_00008_12

Please advise me what to do (I peronally want to kill it)
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Re: Long-running HPF2 task

Effi,

NOT pausing. As written, you need to visit the 'Projects' Tab and Suspend WCG, wait a few minutes and than Resume. Worked for 'olympic', who was the first one to point this workaround out for HPF2 and worked for other including myself.

No guarantee. Please confirm if it does / does not.
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Re: Long-running HPF2 task

Excuse me for not using the correct vocabulary... I meant "Suspend" instead of "paused"

I suspended the troublesome WU again and tried to reactivate it, but now a different WU's active, so I have to wait until that's finished...
I'll see the result tomorrow morning...

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Re: Long-running HPF2 task

The 'Tasks' tab, is where all jobs are listed in the queue and where u suspend/pause a single work unit. In the 'Project' tab, 1 left of Tasks, u need to highlight the WCG projects and than hit Suspend in left margin. This should stop WCG completely.

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Re: Long-running HPF2 task

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Can you tell me what "Minimum Quorum : 15" means on the work unit validation sheet?

As I indicated I thought that only 15 valid replies were required, and if someone had a long running work unit and it looked like 15 valid replies were soon to be reached that he or she could consider abort.

From your recent reply you indicated all 19 valid replies are needed and new copies would be sent until the 19 is reached.

If you review my copy of a valid work unit I have below it appears that in this case 17 Valid, 2 no reply and 1 error was enough as no new copies have been sent to reach 19 valid replies, am I missing something here??

Could you please explain why NO additional copies were sent out to reach 19 valid results in this case??


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Workunit Status

Project Name: Human Proteome Folding - Phase 2
Created: 05/10/2007 21:10:49
Name: lb749_00079
Minimum Quorum: 15
Initial Replication: 19


Result Name Status Sent Time Time Due /
Return Time CPU Time (hours) Claimed/ Granted BOINC Credit
lb749_ 00079_ 19-- Valid 05/11/2007 14:25:06 05/13/2007 00:08:47 16.94 80.8 / 89.1
lb749_ 00079_ 3-- Valid 05/11/2007 10:44:53 05/15/2007 10:53:57 18.22 113.4 / 89.1
lb749_ 00079_ 14-- Valid 05/11/2007 10:44:40 05/12/2007 21:11:24 13.40 87.9 / 89.1
lb749_ 00079_ 6-- Valid 05/11/2007 10:44:40 05/12/2007 00:29:33 7.97 77.7 / 89.1
lb749_ 00079_ 11-- Valid 05/11/2007 10:44:10 05/12/2007 06:12:06 14.06 107.3 / 89.1
lb749_ 00079_ 2-- Valid 05/11/2007 10:44:10 05/13/2007 13:36:51 12.54 101.4 / 89.1
lb749_ 00079_ 0-- Error 05/11/2007 10:43:52 05/11/2007 14:17:25 0.05 0.5 / 0.0
lb749_ 00079_ 16-- Valid 05/11/2007 10:43:51 05/11/2007 22:48:11 4.98 88.2 / 89.1
lb749_ 00079_ 5-- No Reply 05/11/2007 10:43:51 05/20/2007 10:43:51 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
lb749_ 00079_ 7-- Valid 05/11/2007 10:42:59 05/12/2007 11:03:34 18.54 76.8 / 89.1
lb749_ 00079_ 10-- Valid 05/11/2007 10:42:50 05/12/2007 04:28:49 8.58 85.2 / 89.1
lb749_ 00079_ 8-- Valid 05/11/2007 10:42:49 05/13/2007 16:22:04 9.58 71.7 / 89.1
lb749_ 00079_ 4-- Valid 05/11/2007 10:42:27 05/12/2007 17:52:15 17.89 116.1 / 89.1
lb749_ 00079_ 12-- Valid 05/11/2007 10:41:27 05/12/2007 03:28:09 13.69 88.7 / 89.1
lb749_ 00079_ 17-- Valid 05/11/2007 10:41:11 05/14/2007 21:42:20 21.31 96.4 / 89.1
lb749_ 00079_ 13-- Valid 05/11/2007 10:40:38 05/12/2007 07:55:17 13.86 91.8 / 89.1
lb749_ 00079_ 15-- No Reply 05/11/2007 10:37:17 05/20/2007 10:37:17 0.00 0.0 / 0.0
lb749_ 00079_ 18-- Valid 05/11/2007 10:36:55 05/11/2007 23:15:09 10.21 65.4 / 89.1
lb749_ 00079_ 1-- Valid 05/11/2007 10:36:02 05/16/2007 03:41:17 9.42 86.1 / 89.1
lb749_ 00079_ 9-- Valid 05/11/2007 10:35:49 05/12/2007 03:31:33 6.41 105.6 / 89.1
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Re: Long-running HPF2 task

The 'Tasks' tab, is where all jobs are listed in the queue and where u suspend/pause a single work unit. In the 'Project' tab, 1 left of Tasks, u need to highlight the WCG projects and than hit Suspend in left margin. This should stop WCG completely.

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Thanks Sekerob... I did just that...

I will keep a close eye on that WU...
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Re: Long-running HPF2 task

dseto wrote:

Sekerob

Can you tell me what "Minimum Quorum : 15" means on the work unit validation sheet?

As I indicated I thought that only 15 valid replies were required, and if someone had a long running work unit and it looked like 15 valid replies were soon to be reached that he or she could consider abort.

From your recent reply you indicated all 19 valid replies are needed and new copies would be sent until the 19 is reached.

If you review my copy of a valid work unit I have below it appears that in this case 17 Valid, 2 no reply and 1 error was enough as no new copies have been sent to reach 19 valid replies, am I missing something here??

Could you please explain why NO additional copies were sent out to reach 19 valid results in this case??

I need to defer to knreed / technicians et al on why no additional copies are send out until the 19 valid are filled. At the start of the HPF2 project on BOINC, 1st validation was attempted initially after 11 returns - see here - for the announcement. When it says that all 19 are needed, it implies all 19 valid. Seen on own work that for each 'error' a new copy is distributed, but never paid attention to the 'no reply' situation on HPF2.... Never seen a 'no reply' before on HPF2, so maybe a 'bug', like one discovered on Sunday related to the 'inconclusive' (separate thread for HPF2).
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Re: Long-running HPF2 task

E. Friijters Wrote:

Sekerob

Can you tell me ... blah blah blah

Like Shaggy said: It wasn't me!

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