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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I just signed up for WCG and when I tried to get work, I recieved the following error message:
Sat Oct 21 23:33:53 2006|World Community Grid|Sending scheduler request to https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/boinc/wcg_cgi/fcgi Sat Oct 21 23:33:53 2006|World Community Grid|Reason: Requested by user Sat Oct 21 23:33:53 2006|World Community Grid|Requesting 43200 seconds of new work Sat Oct 21 23:33:59 2006|World Community Grid|Scheduler request succeeded Sat Oct 21 23:33:59 2006|World Community Grid|Message from server: No work could be sent. Sat Oct 21 23:33:59 2006|World Community Grid|Message from server: No disk space (YOU must free 17573.2 MB before BOINC gets space). Review preferences for minimum disk free space allowed. Why does WCG need 17.573 GB of disk space?!? that would take forever on my dialup connection... I have about 2.5 GB available HD on my iMac G4, MacOS 10.4.8, 700 MHz, 1 GB RAM running BOINC 5.4.9 ____________ Don't get distracted by shiny objects. ![]() |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
You need to review your preferences :-)
There are three settings that relate to disk space. 1) Use no more than: x Gigabytes 2) Leave at least: y Gigabytes of disk space free 3) Use no more than: z % of total disk space Bear in mind also that as far as BOINC is concerned, the only partition that exists is the one it is installed on. Other things that may cause false reporting are if you have installed BOINC in the wrong place, or if you are running other BOINC projects. The first thing to do is go and see how much space the BOINC folder is taking up. |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
Looks like u signed up today......welcome
----------------------------------------Aside the disk settings u need to review, the 43200 seconds is an indication that the scheduler is confused. One reason is it was trying to get work e.g. Help Defeat Cancer (HDC), which is in limited supply, kept on increasing the value and than finally when work came available, it was offered too much. Suggestion is to do a WCG Reset (under Projects Tab of BOINC)...it will normalize the value. Suggest also to also tick the alternate work box in your "My profile" here https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/viewMyProjects.do as HDC is as eluded not always available. It's the last box: If there is no work available for my computer for the projects I have selected above, please send me work from another project (this option only applies to BOINC agents). Once done, go to Projects Tab, select WCG and hit update. It will fetch the changed preferences and obtain work if any does fit in your present queue schedule. let us know if remaining stuck.
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Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Sekerob, remember this is a fresh installation. There is no work cached, so BOINC is requesting an initial batch - here, 12 hours worth. This would correspond to a connect to network value of 0.5. You don't normally see this because usually when the first request happens, BOINC hasn't got the global preferences, so it uses the defaults and requests 2.4 hours of work. Here, the work request was initiated by the user. Presumably the first request failed also, but still synchronised the global preferences.
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
appreciate the default, but seen more than a few comments where work volume request in seconds does not correlate to the work received. Why is WCG BOINC server entertaining 17.5gb work...the maximum one can specify in the profile is 10gb and for all intends and purposes, no one would be able to process 17.5gb of work in either 0.5 or 0.1 days. Understood that WU's had some sort of a initial ttc embedded, but could be mistaken.
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Each work unit has a built-in disk quota, but that only comes into play when the work is downloaded and starts to use more space than it should.
Until Larry gets back to us, we won't know for sure. My guess is BOINC was installed into an existing folder structure, and BOINC's disk space check is counting more than it should (possibly the whole partition if BOINC was dumped into the root). |
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Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Glad to be here and thanks for all the replies. Here's some more info:
Venue is "home" (according to BAM!, and other projects follow these prefs) and global_prefs.xml file says: ... My HD is 40 GB with 3 partitions
So, I know the prefs are set right because Rosetta requested 43200 seconds and now has a 12 hr WU in the queue among the other WUs of other projects. I have also been using BOINC on this computer for about a month now and just yesterday joined/attached to WCG. I tried resetting WCG but that didn't help. I tried getting work from all three projects (FightAIDS@Home, Help Defeat Cancer, Human Proteome Folding 2) available from WCG, both individually (one project at a time, without the alternate work box checked {or 'ticked' if you prefer :) }) and combined (let the system choose, all three with the alt. work box checked). My guess is that the initial d/l for the WCG application is a bit greedy, so if I could install the app outside of BOINC and trick BOINC to think it installed the app, then BOINC might be content with just fetching WUs for me. Is that possible? The history of my joining WCG: I clicked "Create account" in BOINCstats BAM! "Sign up for Projects" and got "no response from server" message. I then went WCG web site and created an account there. Back at BAM! I selected "Find account" on the "sign up for projects" and proceeded to attach my iMac to WCG through BAM!. Then my computer started talking to WCG servers and requested 0.5 days worth of work and they said nope, YOU need more disk space buck-o! Now I'm here. Thanks agian. |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
one of the tricks i've used in a multi project setup is to temporarily suspend all projects but WCG, than hit update. It will think it got paradise to itself and tries to fill up the queue.
----------------------------------------<disk_max_used_gb>20</disk_max_used_gb>... 20gb?
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Please will you post the entire contents of sched_request_www.worldcommunitygrid.org.xml and sched_reply_www.worldcommunitygrid.org.xml ?
Thank you. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Ok, it's working now. The suggestion about the sched_request and sched_reply promted me to look at them and I saw the different preferences so I looked around WCG to see what they think my prefs are. My host was set with the default General prefs which says, of course, "leave at least 20 GB free." The ~2.5 GB that is available and the ~17.5 GB needed to be freed will then give BOINC the 20 GB free before it will download anything.
I changed the prefs manually (BAM! would not update the prefs... don't know why, even my customized General prefs would have been fine there) on the WCG site, set the host to "home" did an update, and I got an error message... AAAAAARRGH! "Last request too recent." Waited 5 minutes and it started downloading (yaaaaa!) and it's all working now (bigger yaaaaaa!). Does anyone know if there is an issue between WCG and BAM! regarding preference setting? Thanks again for the insight. |
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