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Former Member
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Is anyone using an AMD64 ? If so how fast does it return results ? Will an AMD64 crunch results any quicker ? Will they design a client for a 64 bit platform ?
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The application software has to be coded to use 64 bits to see any benefit and you have to be running on a 64 bit version of the OS.
My impression is the WCG client is 32 bit, not 64. |
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Alther
Former World Community Grid Tech United States of America Joined: Sep 30, 2004 Post Count: 414 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
Is anyone using an AMD64 ? If so how fast does it return results ? Will an AMD64 crunch results any quicker ? Will they design a client for a 64 bit platform ? The software is only 32 bits, but AMD64's are fast CPUs, even in the 32-bit realm. I have one at home (3000+ Newcastle) and it cranks out the work pretty darn fast. They're also a bit cooler than their P4 equivalents because they run at a lower clock rate and have no north bridge on the motherboard.
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The WCG is a 32 bit app and it performs better in that OS. I have the Windows 64 bit os here with the FX-53 and I rarely use the 64bit OS. There are just too few apps that will make it worthwhile currently. Once the final version of Windows 64 bit is finished, I am sure that more applications will be geared toward that OS once it has been established.
As an interesting side note however it was about 10 to 15 minutes faster crunching SETI work units. |
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To: Rick Alther
World Community Grid Application Developer Thanks for your insight. I just started on this project when the IBM web site announcement came out. I am on the IBM America's team. I am with IBM on the Honeywell IGS Stategic Outsourcing contract, in Tempe, AZ. That contact has about 3,500 Engineering Workstations, like the IBM Intellisations or Unix Workstaitons. Has anyone you know of approached a large SO contract about using the idle processing of the thousands of Engineering W/S? Is an Engineering Workstation, like an IBM Intellisations, that is focused on Floating Point Calulcations, the best type of system that is commercially available to run this type of applicaiton? Any information would be helpful. Will this Applicaiton run on a Windows 2003 Server? |
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umm, A64's DO have northbridges....
They just have the memory controller on die (inside the CPU) instead of the Northbridge. Everything else has to go through the northbridge, hdd access, PCI/PCI-X/PCI-e, AGP, etc etc etc. Some chipsets just doen't have a 'southbridge' due to everything being put into the northbridge 'chipset' core. |
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darkwarden
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Actually the architecture of A64 platforms varies, there are the VIA, SiS and other similar groups that have both Northbridge and Southbridge chips.
However there is one manufacturer that has only one chip, nVidia's nForce chipsets only have one chip, there is no northbridge and southbridge, just the chipset as both north and south chips have been incorporated into one package. And for a note, the northbridge controls the interface between the CPU and itself, the RAM (in P4 situations), the AGP/PCI Express 16X and the interconnect between it and the southbridge, the south chip controls everything else, IDE, sound, network, RAID, USB ports, Firewire ports, PCI slots, PCI Express 1X slots. |
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Alther
Former World Community Grid Tech United States of America Joined: Sep 30, 2004 Post Count: 414 Status: Offline Project Badges: |
To: Rick Alther World Community Grid Application Developer Thanks for your insight. I just started on this project when the IBM web site announcement came out. I am on the IBM America's team. I am with IBM on the Honeywell IGS Stategic Outsourcing contract, in Tempe, AZ. That contact has about 3,500 Engineering Workstations, like the IBM Intellisations or Unix Workstaitons. Has anyone you know of approached a large SO contract about using the idle processing of the thousands of Engineering W/S? Is an Engineering Workstation, like an IBM Intellisations, that is focused on Floating Point Calulcations, the best type of system that is commercially available to run this type of applicaiton? Any information would be helpful. Will this Applicaiton run on a Windows 2003 Server? You should look me up in BP and send me an internal email or Sametime.
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I have the Athlon64 3200 and it seems to be tearing right through it at a pretty swift pace. Can you imagine what one of those G5's with the dual 2.5's loaded full of RAM could do though? I was surprised not to see a download for the Mac since IBM is one of the sponsors for this project. Seeing how they are the ones that make the current processors for Apple.
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If you go to Software Features, then to Software FAQs at http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/join_now/software_faqs.html you will find that the second and third questions deal with upcoming clients. Linux X86 is promised for 2005, then Mac OS X will be 'looked into'. There is no need for a final decision until the Linux agent is about ready, but I think you have hit on one of the reasons the Mac is talked about so much. And though I do not want to embarass you, a moment's thought will show that to build a World Community Grid the very first priority should be a 32-bit Windows client. And once you have it, there is no reason to delay until more clients are ready.
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