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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I have chosen all projects to crunch and most of the time (recently 95%+) my PC's get is the fightaids@home units, which is OK but...
My question is this; I have some beefy PC's that more than match the requirements to do the cancer crunching and I would like them to get those work units. How can I specify those PC's to get just those cancer units? Digging through the help and searching the forums I've come up with nothing that exactly matches my question. I concluded that I would have to make a new user and just pick the cancer project and re-register those beefy PC's to that new user and then they are guaranteed to get just those units. My suggestion is this; I would like to see the “Available Projects” to be chosen in each “Device Profile”, that way I could have my “Work” profile, where I have my engineer/developer/etc PC's, just doing the cancer units and have my “School” profile do all the other projects that require less memory. Well it's time to go and shovel some rock. Oh how I hate yard work  --Brink  |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
Brink, tossed this around in other recent threads until one bril C.A. simply said......why not set those up with the BOINC Agent where you can select projects down to the single device. There's an option coming that if your pref project has no work at the moment, its allowed to grab WU's from other projects
----------------------------------------UD and BOINC points would still get added-up at the WCG stats. stay tuned 
WCG
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Brink, tossed this around in other recent threads until one bril C.A. simply said......why not set those up with the UD Agent where you can select projects down to the single device. There's an option coming that if your pref project has no work at the moment, its allowed to grab WU's from other projects stay tuned I use Boinc exclusively so I can manage all my PC's with Boincview which really came in handy when running the HPF2. Had to do a lot of babysitting with that project. I do admit that I did not know you could do that with the UD agent  . I may give it a try. Thanks for this info.--Brink  |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
I think you'll be able to do what you want to regarding the HDC units but I wonder if it's worth the bother. Apparently, the HDC project can generate only 4,000 WUs per day. (It's not a restriction imposed by WCG, they just can't produce the WUs any faster).
----------------------------------------4,000 WUs seems like a lot but WCG has approximately 200,000 crunchers. You might setup a crunch box to get HDC units first and other WUs if no HDC are available and then find you get at most 1 HDC WU per day. At this time there is apparently a stockpile of HDC units available but it shouldn't take long to whittle away that stockpile and then we get 4,000 max. per day. It's nice to be able to manage all your machines through BOINCview, as you know. I do it too and I would have to have a very good reason to give up that capability by installing UD. [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Jul 23, 2006 11:55:26 PM] |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Just to clarify a little: the lab can only supply 4000 work units per day at present. We started with a small amount in hand, so it's unlikely we'll run out immediately. The robotic scanning system restricts the work unit production to 7000 per day, but there are some preprocessing steps that seem to be bringing that number down.
Remember, 4000 work units equates to at least 12000 results. The current average shown in the statistics is 9,866 results per day. I expect this to rise as the project scientists get into the swing of it and perhaps work out a way to keep up with the robotic scanning. Since so few machines on the grid will be able to cope with HDC units, the misbalance compared to other projects won't be much of an issue. However, WCG can adjust the project weightings so that more work units are reserved for people only working on HDC. |
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Sekerob
Ace Cruncher Joined: Jul 24, 2005 Post Count: 20043 Status: Offline |
Looking at production which was already as below:
----------------------------------------Yesterday (Saturday! 7.22.06): Total Run Time (y:d:h:m:s) 8:287:01:46:20 Points Generated 2,613,524 Results Returned 15,435 ** As hinted on by knreed, post july 20, the special fallback option is designed in anticipation of above.....potentially running out at times. If HPF2 does not come back soon, we've got only FAAH, were it not, the fallback function is not life yet? I see some serious pressures to resolve HPF2 as many machines might start idling soon...last 2 are going out in next 24 hours on my machine. ** 15435 divied by an old 3.6 distribution number is 4.3k WU's required and people are still flocking in onto this Cancer Diagnostics research.
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Former Member
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Brink, tossed this around in other recent threads until one bril C.A. simply said......why not set those up with the UD Agent where you can select projects down to the single device. There's an option coming that if your pref project has no work at the moment, its allowed to grab WU's from other projects UD and BOINC points would still get added-up at the WCG stats. stay tuned I almost forgot.  I can't use the UD Agent at work. I refer you to this old post.http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/...?thread=4585&offset=0 So I will have to stick with Boinc. Nevertheless, I would still like to choose, using boinc, what work my individual pc's get. --Brink |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
It's a feature that has been on the todo list ever since WCG added BOINC support.
Unfortunately, BOINC isn't particularly geared for handling sub-projects. Probably WCG will provide some kind of work-around, but eventually the hope is that the BOINC client will evolve to the point where it can treat each WCG project as a seperate BOINC project. There's some distance to go on that, though. |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
This new feature took care of my gripe mentioned above...
"Members can enable this option by going to the My Projects page and checking the box next to the statement 'If there is no work available for my computer for the projects I have selected above, please send me work from another project (this option only applies to BOINC agents).'" Now I just check the HDC and the new option quoted above and all my beefy pc's get HDC units and all the smaller ones get whatever they can do. I love it!!!  Thank you very much WCG for this new option.  --Brink |
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we45dfa35gh3476
Advanced Cruncher Joined: Apr 19, 2006 Post Count: 57 Status: Offline |
Just to clarify a little: the lab can only supply 4000 work units per day at present. We started with a small amount in hand, so it's unlikely we'll run out immediately. The robotic scanning system restricts the work unit production to 7000 per day, but there are some preprocessing steps that seem to be bringing that number down. Remember, 4000 work units equates to at least 12000 results. The current average shown in the statistics is 9,866 results per day. I expect this to rise as the project scientists get into the swing of it and perhaps work out a way to keep up with the robotic scanning. I've noticed around 20,000 results/day for HDC lately. I'm guessing that this is still catching up with a backlog of TMAs? Just to be sure: if I have a machine that's set to HDC only, and all WUs have reached a quorum for HDC, it will back off until another new HDC is available? There is no re-crunching of HDC units going on for those users who only have HDC selected, right? Just want to make sure we're not "throwing away" ~8,000 results a day on redundancy.  |
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