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Re: to dump or not to dump "redundant work unit/s ?

Why not just enable each client software to do what retep57 does manually? UD client could check with the scheduler periodically to see if the WU it is working on (or is about to work on) has already been validated and dump the WU if it has already validated. Credit can be prorated when a WU is dumped midway.

If you glance up the thread, you will see this is one of the options I'm currently trying to test. Personally, I feel other approaches will yield a better result, but cancelling work units can be done in combination with those approaches - so throughput can be absolutely optimised.
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Re: to dump or not to dump "redundant work unit/s ?

Just my opinion,
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Re: to dump or not to dump "redundant work unit/s ?

faah0448_ d011cb492_ x1hpv_ 00 Valid 04/28/2006 23:25:00 04/29/2006 14:39:10 10.75 69 / 69
faah0448_ d011cb492_ x1hpv_ 00 In Progress 04/28/2006 23:25:00 05/19/2006 23:25:00 0.00 0 / 0
faah0448_ d011cb492_ x1hpv_ 00 Valid 04/28/2006 23:25:00 04/29/2006 14:03:08 9.60 70 / 69
faah0448_ d011cb492_ x1hpv_ 00 Valid 04/28/2006 23:11:48 04/29/2006 10:19:12 7.56 52 / 69

that is interesting, my machine pent 4 3.ghz 1gb ram, so far has taken 45 hrs to do 16.8 of this w/u, i was wondering whether or not to continue, i thought i would stuggle on and try make the may 20 deadline, i looked at the boinc device manager staus thing and noticed that this wu is already done, the 3 puters took average of 9 hrs ,, i wonder why mine took so long for so little progress, anyway i see 3 valid results thus satisfies quorum 3 so i was very happy to dump this w/unit, if i had of takenmy own advice i would have dumped it 24hrs ago grrrr,, am a little puzzled to explain it,
1- dumping wastes some points but i think it is silly going for another 10 days ( projected) just for points..
2- now i have dumped that sus w/u i can start on a new one, at last, glad i looked, cheers...

still dont get it..
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Re: to dump or not to dump "redundant work unit/s ?

Hi retep57,
my machine pent 4 3.ghz 1gb ram
Do you have anything else running on that computer? A second BOINC thread, perhaps? Are you switching between projects?
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Hi retep57,
my machine pent 4 3.ghz 1gb ram
Do you have anything else running on that computer? A second BOINC thread, perhaps? Are you switching between projects?
confused
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no lawrence, thanx for asking, i did have 2 threads running but as i saw painfully slow progress, i clicked "dont allow new work" then i suspended one of the w/u for a while to see if it made a difference, did not seem to do much , might have accelrated it a bit, then i unsuspended that 2nd w/u to let it finish - which it did but then let the 1st w/u go by itself , after antoher 12 hrs with only a few % i gave up ( once i noted that others had completed and validated the same one) .. no i cant explain it, especially curiuos is the fact that other machnes wre reasonably consistent in time etc, 9 hr -10 hrs..
fyi i now have 2 threads running each on 2 hrs one at 20% :) and one at 10 % :) , so i am at a loss, nouthin else different, alli can say is that the quorum method has saved the day and i am on new w/unit..

also i not that i had a long unit way back on the 24th and was waiting for a long time (5 days for validation, i saw that a 5th w/u was sent out as the other s 3rd and4th were still inprogress (?) (someone else completed 2nd unit so only needed one more , nice work in sending out extra w/u to complete, i must go and look for interest to see if 3 and 4 ever completed cheers btw i amnot switching between projects, at least noton this machine, i have not seen any proteome things on my boinc setups default is for faah asfaik... i thought at 1st boinc did not do proteome? i have not changed it since and (for now) i only do boinc with wcg exclusivley ... cheers thanx for your interst
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Re: to dump or not to dump "redundant work unit/s ?

If i had a projected 10 days to go (for 69 points), when in fact the quorum of 3 was already validated, i'd dump it in a blink of an eye.....you can do alot more units in same time progressing the project!
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Re: to dump or not to dump "redundant work unit/s ?

If i had a projected 10 days to go (for 69 points), when in fact the quorum of 3 was already validated, i'd dump it in a blink of an eye.....you can do alot more units in same time progressing the project!

exactly, one of my main points - i am glad u agree biggrin as soon as i saw valid - then instant dump - d/l new work-unit get on woth job yay, next time i will look a bit earlier if i have extra long w/u, interesting that others went way faster for same w/u, my puter usalual average or better.. in fact my amd dualy is very ofetn 1st one back with result waiting for others to catchup, i only have 3 computers but last week i had a decord of 10 completed w/u waiting for oters to catchup.. the amd is going very well, in fact that puter does nil else but crunch 99.9 % of the time.. the xp pentiums are still playing with HThreading until i hear i am convinced one way or the other..
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Re: to dump or not to dump "redundant work unit/s ?

I have no certain answer, but just on general principles if that happened to me I would set a preference for that computer that specified 1 thread. BOINC allows you to use 3 different preferences (Home, School and Work). Set Home to use 1 thread and Work to use 2 and then tell computers with 1 core to use Home and computers with 2 cores to use Work.
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yes thanx i have a bunch of profiles i play with , some are set for 2 w/u on my dually and i have ones for the pentiums for either 1 or 2 w/u at a time depending on my mood, is easy enough tp swap beween profiles thanx.. i think i have a small advantage with HT with 1gb ram etc, but am not totally convinced.. if HT is usefull or not cheers, than x for comment i hope others find it useful, i just type in a dif name for a few dif profiles to see how they go, for example i have tried changing the write to disk option etc etc to see wot differences happen etc, am happy playing around cheers, main thing is i want to get max crunch possible (without overclocking - i to chicken for that)
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