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depriens
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I'm facing a strange problem with the temperature of my primary harddrive. I don't know if this is the right forum to post this, so moderators, do your job if it isn't.
----------------------------------------Right now I'm having two harddrives in my computer: - One 60GB Maxtor 6Y060L0 for the system and all applications (this is also the one with the problem). - One 120GB Maxtor 6Y120L0 for temporary download storage before I send it to my external drive. So the two internal harddrives are pretty similar I guess. I've been running programs like Everest for quite some time now and noticed the temperatures of the harddrives vary a lot between the two. But for the past year I haven't done anything, because I thought it wouldn't be a problem. The primary drive was around 66 degC (152 degF) constantly. And the other drive around 38 degC (100 degF). On the Maxtor site the maximum temperature of this harddrive is 60 degC!! So this should be a problem. The primary drive is located at the bottom drive of my case so there isn't anything under it. Now I removed the diskdrive which was directly above it and left the gap and the side panel open. So I should expect lots of air free-flowing around this harddrive now. Temperature went down a little bit, but it's staying at 63-64 degC now all the time. From what I understand this is VERY high and not healthy for the harddrive. Is there anything simple I can do to change this? Not that I'm experiencing any problems, but I understand that it might result in a crash some time! ![]() Imagine that the secondary drive which is around 38 degC constantly is located between other drives and lots of cables, so that actually sould be the one with the problem, but isn't strange enough. ![]() ![]() |
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Some hard drives run hotter than others. Yes, it sounds hot in there.
----------------------------------------I have seen "hard drive coolers" in some of the computer stores. They look like they could have fan(s) and a heat sink that would be helpful. Here is a sample from Fry's: http://shop3.outpost.com/product/3972938?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG My own isn't running as hot as that one, but an add-on chassis fan dropped the mobo temperature by about 10 degrees C. It only cost about $5 and is worth adding. They come in different diameters, so get one that fits the screw mounting holes. There was a chassis fan connector on the motherboard, and my mobo monitoring program will also track the temperature and rpm of the cpu fan, power supply fan and chassis fan. My bigger motherboard also has a connector for chassis fan #2.
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If your hard drive ever crashes, you could always refer to this nifty program called SpinRite 6 at http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm and get that program to recover your hard drive. It has done miracles for my computer and recovering it when I couldn't boot into windows. I recommend it to you to use it if you can.
On the side note, do you notice if the hard drive keeps clicking or having a lot of reads and writes even when it's idle? Any wierd sounds? It may be the arm flipping back and forth that's making all that extra heat. You never know what can happen. |
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Dirk Gently
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I too did have problems with high hard drive temperatures. I've got 5 hard drives in this machine. Initially these were stacked without gaps and got much too warm. Spreading them out and using a couple of 80mm fans to blow gently endwise through them cured this - they now are all at <40 degC.
----------------------------------------There are several free progs to monitor PC CPU and hard drive temps and access the drives SMART data, if they support it. I use one called Speedfan http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php. This can graph temperatures over time too. Another free prog for SMART data is DiskCheckup http://www.passmark.com. One of the parameters in SMART is max temp (highest ever). If the system drive is getting hot then move the windows swapfile to your other drive - this will reduce activity to the sys drive and is the most efficient arrangement for Windows with 2 drives anyway. ---------------------------------------- [Edit 1 times, last edit by Dirk Gently at Mar 21, 2006 8:34:33 AM] |
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I would be concerned if a HDD temp went over 40*C. At over 60*C I would turn the machine off and sort out the cooling issues.
Can you post more details - CPU type and temp along with what fans you currently have in your (I assume) tower case? |
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Thanks jujaga, I downloaded Spinrite just in case!
----------------------------------------![]() Yes, I'm concerned too, but since I have seen these temperatures for more than a year ago (and didn't pay any attention to it at the time) I hope that it will last a bit longer. My CPU is a P4 2.66 and runs about 48 degC all the time - stressed of course ![]() My board (Chaintech 9EJS1 ZENITH) is around 33 degC all the time. My primary harddrive runs between 63 and 66 degC all the time. My secondary harddrive which is located between other drives is 36-38 degC. In my tower case I have removed the side panel and the 3.5" front panel above the harddrive. There's the stock fan on the processor and one in the power supply. No further fans inside the case. There are possibilities to install extra fans. One just below the power supply and one in the front at the bottom. Perhaps it is a good idea to install some extra fans? But I still believe it's very strange. This morning when I booted up the pc for the first time, the primary harddrive was already 45 degC, while the secondary was only 18 degC. Maybe there's just something wrong with this drive? ![]() ![]() |
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Sounds like you need an intake fan on the front of your case, So it gets some cool air to those drives...
I would also fit an exhaust fan on the back. Have you tried a different temp monitor? Speedfan maybe worth checking out, just to see if it tells you any different...... ![]() |
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Sounds like you need an intake fan on the front of your case, So it gets some cool air to those drives... I would also fit an exhaust fan on the back. Have you tried a different temp monitor? Speedfan maybe worth checking out, just to see if it tells you any different...... ![]() I tried it with Everest, HDD Temperature, SiSoft Sandra and all of those indicated the same temperature. Since the rest of my system is nice and cool I'm thinking that maybe that harddrive has had it's best time? Is this likely? Otherwise maybe I should get me one of those fans which you can mount on top of the harddrive? ![]() ![]() [Edit 1 times, last edit by depriens at Mar 22, 2006 1:38:04 PM] |
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High temperature of hard drive might be caused by failing barring. If you have another spare drive that you know is good I would try to image drive to another one and use another drive as your system drive. Then you can connect your old drive as slave and let it run without using it. If it still keeps temperature high even without any load I can say with degree certainty that its barrings are bad. Replace it then.
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You mean "bearings", and you are almost certainly correct.
Without any load, your power saving software should spin the drive down, so that won't prove anything. Drives can run hot without any trouble, but the MTBF will be significantly lowered. If the bearings are failing, the problem will get progressively worse. Monitor it closely. |
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